links page

Hæ Patricia,

> Respectful enquiry - where you say My Links Page, does that mean

you manage it or constructed it, whatever the correct term is meant
to be.

Yes, "my" just in the sense that I made the list, and will add
anything else that looks good to it.

> Compliments - that is a site rich in information I shall be

very keen to use it, should one ask permission of anyone to copy,
strictly for study of course.

Sure: copy & propogate at will. Johann Fritzner's dictionary is
offline at the moment for technical reasons, but should be back in a
little while. The Icelandic Characters for Computers link was a
handy place to cut & paste from, but recently disappeared, so I'll
probably replace that at some point.

Llama Nom

--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"
<originalpatricia@...> wrote:

> Saell Peter,
> Respectful enquiry - where you say My Links Page, does that mean

you manage it or constructed it, whatever the correct term is meant
to be.

> Compliments - that is a site rich in information I shall be

very keen to use it, should one ask permission of anyone to copy,
strictly for study of course.

> I find it true of so many people on this course, they want

others to participate, and to learn with them. Like That

> Patricia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: llama_nom
> To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:12 PM
> Subject: [norse_course] Hobbit byggði jarðhús (was Re: Tolkien)
>
>
>
>
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"
> <originalpatricia@...> wrote:
> > Tried it, did copy and paste 'n' all but the systen would

not

> let me through
>
> Yeah, I've had that problem before. It's something to do with

the

> wraparound of the lines. You can paste each line separately,

making

> sure there's no space between them. Or you can type "cleasby
> vigfusson" into Google and look it up from the index. I tried

that

> now and it comes up as the third link. This is the index, but

it's

> a long address too:
>
>

http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_abou

> t.html
>
> Or you can get to it from my links page:
>
> http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/norselinks.htm
>
> Llama Nom
>
>
>
>
> > Growl (think Wolf)
> > Patricia
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: llama_nom
> > To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:55 AM
> > Subject: [norse_course] Hobbit byggði jarðhús (was Re:

Tolkien)

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On the Illusion Bench? The Moon Bench?
> >
> >
>

http://penguin.pearson.swarthmore.edu/~scrist1/scanned_books/html/oi_

> > cleasbyvigfusson/b0203.html
> >
> > Mysterious, huh? The more we learn the stranger things

get.

> Is
> > there a story behind that? It does sound a bit

sinister, as

> if to
> > say you can never be too sure about what you find lying

there

> free
> > for the taking and apparently too good to be true--which

would

> fit
> > the context perfectly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"
> > <originalpatricia@...> wrote:
> > > Hey LN Dear, you are a great person with whom to
> correspond and
> > for no real reason I suggest glambekk, has some tenuous
> connection
> > with glámsýni which is given as "illusion" for if

illusion is

> > something perceived but illusory then might this

glambekk be

> > something perceived in plain sight, yes and I get your

pooint

> 20 in
> > the whole world, it seems differently now. All
> this "conversation"
> > back and forth between so many people of common-

interest, is a

> > wonderful thing for me, it makes me want to study with

even

> greater
> > application, I have never enjoyed a study more, thank

you.

> > > Patricia
> > > Can you say if (as it seems to me) this glámbekk is

> compound
> > word for I certainly was unable to find either of the

two

> halves
> > glám and bekk
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: llama_nom
> > > To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:55 PM
> > > Subject: [norse_course] Hobbit byggði jarðhús (was

Re:

> Tolkien)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > There were a lot of rings to begin with L.N.

dear

> > >
> > > Granted, but still that's only 20 in the whole

world!

> The
> > Icelandic
> > > idiom means I think that they could still be found

lying

> > around for
> > > the taking:
> > >
> > > þegar slíkir hringir enn gátu legið á glámbekk í

heiminum

> > >
> > > Which is quite evocative in its innocuousness;

reminds

> me of
> > the
> > > story of King Frodi. What exactly is a glámbekk?

Does

> it
> > only
> > > occur in this idiom?
> > >
> > > Of course the Faroese might have some extra

connotation

> I
> > don't know
> > > about, but it seems to just say that there were a

lot of

> them,
> > > whereas "still at large in the world" doesn't

really say

> > whether
> > > they were numerous or not, only that you could

well bump

> into
> > one,
> > > and that this might not be good thing for you!

The

> English
> > maybe
> > > had an extra note of danger, because typical

things that

> can
> > be "at
> > > large" are convicts on the run, highwaymen, lions,
> escaped
> > boxing
> > > kangaroos, etc.
> > >
> > > Llama nom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"
> > > <originalpatricia@...> wrote:
> > > > There were a lot of rings to begin with L.N.

dear

> > > >
> > > > Three Rings fpr the Elven-Kings under the sky
> > > > Seven for the Dwarf-Lords in their Halls of

Stone

> > > > Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die
> > > > One for the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne
> > > > In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie
> > > >
> > > > One Ring to rule them all one ring to find tem
> > > > one Ring to bring them all and in the darkness

bind

> them
> > > > In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie
> > > >
> > > > Fact is That last line I find difficult to

read it

> makes
> > me
> > > shudder
> > > > Blessings
> > > > Patricia is that 20 or 21 in total
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: llama_nom
> > > > To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:47 PM
> > > > Subject: [norse_course] Hobbit byggði

jarðhús (was

> Re:
> > Tolkien)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Patricia, I obviously didn't read your
> message too
> > > closely--I
> > > > didn't spot that url in there! I found it
> interesting
> > anyway
> > > to
> > > > read through the Icelandic and Faroese

quotes. A

> lot of
> > it I
> > > just
> > > > have to take on trust, in my ignorance, but
> _mangir_
> > seems odd
> > > in
> > > > the Faroese. I don't think "at large"

necessarily

> means
> > that
> > > there
> > > > were a lot of these rings knocking around in

the

> Old
> > Days.
> > > Mind
> > > > you, trying to pin down exactly what it does
> imply, I
> > can see
> > > that
> > > > might be a tricky one...
> > > >
> > > > > "þat gegnir
> > > > > sællífi" for "that means comfort" is

pure

> genius.
> > > > > Said Haukur -
> > > > > I have to agree,
> > > >
> > > > Aw come on folks, the only pure genius

around here

> is
> > Tolkien
> > > for
> > > > writing the thing in the first place ;) The

poem

> here
> > reminds
> > > me of
> > > > certain lines in the Eddic lays that seem

really

> really
> > simple
> > > but
> > > > make the hairs on my neck stand on end, and

> don't know
> > why:
> > > Þat
> > > > man hún fólkvíg fyrst í heimi "she remembers

the

> first
> > war in
> > > the
> > > > world" & Vara þat nú né í gær "it wasn't

now; it

> wasn't
> > > yesterday".
> > > >
> > > > Llama Nom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In

norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"

> > > > <originalpatricia@...> wrote:
> > > > > http://www.neko.com/Hobbit_IS_FO.html

When I

> > > googled "Hobbit in
> > > > Icelandic" I was asked if I really meant

Hobbit in

> > ICELAND -
> > > Google
> > > > are annoying when they do that. Eventually

they

> gave me
> > the
> > > url
> > > > quoted here with a very interesting page of
> extracts, I
> > hope
> > > they
> > > > will be of interest
> > > > > "þat gegnir
> > > > > sællífi" for "that means comfort" is

pure

> genius.
> > > > > Said Haukur -
> > > > > I have to agree, But then the whole idea

> > translating
> > > the
> > > > Hobbit into Old Norse had a touch of Genius

about

> it.
> > > > > I was impressed because I understood
> immediately
> > the
> > > source,
> > > > and went to my bookcase to find the well-

thumbed

> copy of
> > The
> > > Hobbit
> > > > to compare.
> > > > > Google are strange, I know of no

reference of

> Bilbo
> > or
> > > Frodo
> > > > going to Iceland
> > > > > Patricia
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Haukur Þorgeirsson
> > > > > To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:22 AM
> > > > > Subject: [norse_course] Hobbit byggði
> jarðhús (was
> > Re:
> > > Tolkien)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is probably way off the mark,

but

> here goes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hobbit byggði jörðhús. Þat var eigi

hola

> > saurfull ok
> > > aurig,
> > > > drjúp
> > > > > > ok blaut, eða maðkfull ok fúl, né

enn hola

> þurr
> > ok
> > > auð,
> > > > söndug ok án
> > > > > > sætis. Heldr var hobbithola, ok þat
> gegnir
> > sællífi.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this is very amusing and well

done :)

> > > > > One correction; 'jörðhús' is, I think,

not a

> > > > > valid combination. The usual one
> is 'jarðhús'.
> > > > >
> > > > > We might nativise 'hobbit'

as 'hobbitr'

> > or 'hobbiti'.
> > > > > The last is one MI version. Another
> is 'hobbi'. I
> > think
> > > > > it's actually a bit interesting *not*

> nativise
> > it.
> > > > > I wouldn't have thought of that. Nor

would I

> have
> > thought
> > > > > of some of the adjectives you use and

> think "þat
> > gegnir
> > > > > sællífi" for "that means comfort" is

pure

> genius.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully someone will correct my
> mistakes. I
> > wonder
> > > how
> > > > the Modern
> > > > > > Icelandic edition begins...
> > > > >
> > > > > I think yours is much more

idiosyncratic and

> > interesting.
> > > > > The modern translations (I think there

are

> two)
> > are
> > > probably
> > > > > too loyal to the English version to

interest

> us.
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