Re: Audun - 4/ feedback Patricia

Hi Patricia!

You did a grand job - remember some of us have been working away at this for some time now :-)

I think that "villtu... " as in

Villtu selja oss dýrit

conveys more of a sense of volition in Old Norse than the English "will you". Perhaps, "do you want to" would be better.

ok mun þat réttara

mun - verb, singular present of munu: will

réttara is the comparative of rétt - literally, more right (or more just)

Hvárt er - interrogative pronoun (literally: whether is) i.e. can it be

at þú ert maðr svá óvitr

that you are a man so unwise/ignorant

at þú hefir eigi heyrt ófrið þann er

that you have not heard of that hostility which

er í milli er landa þessa

is between these lands

eða ætlar þú giptu þína svá mikla

or do you consider your good fortune so great

at þú munir þar komask með gørsimar

that you will arrive there with treasures

[I like Alan's rendering - that you will make your way there with treasures]

er aðrir fá eigi komizk klakklaust

when others don't manage to arrive unharmed

þó at nauðsyn eigi til?"

even though necessity obliges them to (go).

Hope this helps. You're doing really well and it'll be so much easier once your books arrive.

Cheers,

Sarah.

----- Original Message -----

From: Patricia

To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:00 AM

Subject: Re: [norse_course] Audun - 4

This is getting a bit more difficult.

I shall do my best Sarah, says Patricia, originalpatricia@...

Konungr mælti: "Villtu selja oss dýrit við slíku verði sem þú keyptir?"  Hann svarar:

King asked wilt thou sell this animal for the worth that thou bought    he nswered

The king asked him Will you sell me this bear for the same price you paid " he replied

"Eigi vil ek þat, herra." "Villtu þá," segir konungr, "at ek gefa þér tvau verð slík? ok

"Not will I that, Lord" Wilt thou then said King that I give thee two times like, and

"I will not do that Lord" "Would you have me pay twice the price and

mun þat réttara, ef þú hefir þar við gefit alla þína eigu." "Eigi vil ek þat, herra",

(mun) that (rettara) if thou hadst given for it all thy wealth "I will not that Lord"

( ?   ) that means? if you had given all your wealth for it " "I will not Lord"

segir hann. Konungr mælti: "Villtu gefa mér þá?" Hann svarar, "Eigi, herra."

said he   King asked   "Will you give it to me"   He answered "no Lord"

he said , The King asked "Will you give it to me" he answered "No Lord

Konungr mælti: "Hvat villtu þá af gøra?" Hann svarar: "Fara," segir hann, "til

King asked "What wilt thou then ( ) to do He answered "Travel" said he to

The King asked "What then, will you do" He Answered "Travel " said he to

Denmerkr ok gefa Sveini konungi." Haraldr konungr segir, "Hvárt er, at þú ert maðr

Denmark and give Swein King" "Harald King said "What art thou as a man

Denmark and give it to King Swein King Harald said" What sort of man are you

svá óvitr at þú hefir eigi heyrt ófrið þann er í milli er landa þessa, eða ætlar þú giptu

so (.....) that thou had no heard of (....)   that is between these lands.Then think you luck

so you have not heard of the (enmity) that is between our Lands. Think yourself so lucky

þína svá mikla, at þú munir þar komask með gørsimar, er aðrir fá eigi komizk

(     ) so great that thou (.....) come there with treasures and will return again

(     ) so far, that you (.....) come there with treasures and may return home

klakklaust, þó at nauðsyn eigi til?"

Unharmed,   ( I had difficulty here, are there others who will rob him I will leave this for a moment

Unscathed (- I guess here , you do not need to go )

I regret Sarah that I am not pleased with this pitiful effort, when I get my books I will do better, and I will get a print out and start to study the words on the internet, is it okay to print out copy for my own study

Blessing

Patricia

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah Bowen

To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 1:30 PM

Subject: [norse_course] Audun - 4

OK. Here comes part 4! [Hopefully without typos!]

Konungr mælti: "Villtu selja oss dýrit við slíku verði sem þú keyptir?" Hann svarar: "Eigi vil ek þat, herra." "Villtu þá," segir konungr, "at ek gefa þér tvau verð slík? ok mun þat réttara, ef þú hefir þar við gefit alla þína eigu." "Eigi vil ek þat, herra", segir hann. Konungr mælti: "Villtu gefa mér þá?" Hann svarar, "Eigi, herra." Konungr mælti: "Hvat villtu þá af gøra?" Hann svarar: "Fara," segir hann, "til Denmerkr ok gefa Sveini konungi." Haraldr konungr segir, "Hvárt er, at þú ert maðr svá óvitr at þú hefir eigi heyrt ófrið þann er í milli er landa þessa, eða ætlar þú giptu þína svá mikla, at þú munir þar komask með gørsimar, er aðrir fá eigi komizk klakklaust, þó at nauðsyn eigi til?"

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