--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "sjuler" <sjuler@...> wrote:
> "hin mangu mál swíþiauþar"
>
> The u ending in 'mangu' is quite interesting here. We still see
this archaism in Modern Dalska:
>
> "Ollû mol sos irå täläðû ô Aislande ir iett!"
> "All langauges which are spoken on Iceland is one!"
I was having fun with Gutnish words above. More rightly, I should
have either 'hin mang mál swíþiauþar' or an older 'hin mangu málu
swíþiauþaR'. The reason are 1) 'allr' never declines weak, as the
final -u suggests where no -u follows 'mál', and 2) final -u most
likely fell from 'mangu' at the same time it fell from 'mál', or
nearly so. In Dalska, the final -û in 'ollû' given above is hardly
likely to have lived from the wiking time unto this day. Had it
lived all the while, one would be looking to see 'molû' as well,
following the spelling above. Truely, Dalska has either learned of
new to pick up olden sounds once fallen from or grown in new ways.
To the best of my knowledge, no tongue of Sandinaujô kept final -u
is such steads beyond the early wiking time.
> Note that the u ending is nasalized: û.
If so, then the ending could hardly have lived from the wiking time,
as the tongues of that time had this -u from earier Germanic *-ô. No
nasal followed the *-ô, either in First-Germanic or in First-Norse.
A new growth has taken place in Dalska here.
> It should be noted that in Dalska, 'a' before 'll' has become a
short version of a 'á' (similar to that some Icelanders
write 'lángur' instead of 'langur'). If writing Dalska with a
standardized spelling, one would thus get (using 'h' to denote
nasalization - remember that Dalska has lost the h sound and that
the nasalization reveals that an n is lost - which graphically looks
like h!):
Vowels were lengthened widely in West Norse before L in many steads
in the 11th and 12th christian ages. Thus it is that folk sayeth on
olden skins 'skáld'.
> "Álluh mál sos éru tælæþuh áh Íslande ér eett!"
Suá hæfir þat uerit frá þuí Ingólfr bygþi suþr í Ræykjaruík.
Kuæþja,
Konráþr.
> Sklär,
> Sjurd
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "konrad_oddsson"
> <konrad_oddsson@...> wrote:
> > hin mangu mál swíþiauþar:
> > The many tongues of Sweden:
> >
> > http://ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=Sweden
> >
> > Swedish: 93%
> > Dalska (first on list): 1,500 speakers
> > Gutniska (listed under Swedish): 5,000 + 10,000 othertongue
> speakers)
> >
> > Gutniskir laikar (Gotneskir leikar/Gotneskar íþróttir):
> >
> > http://www.gotland.net/stangaspelen/gutnlek.htm
> >
> > Góþar farþir (Gutniska) (bare in mind: middle þ always = ð)
> > Góðar ferðir (Íslenzka)
> >
> > Konráðr