Haukur skrev slikt:
>
> Actually that's a very natural phonetic development and one
> that did indeed take place in at least some dialects of ON.
> For example what we have in standardized Old Icelandic as 'draumr'
> occurs in Old Swedish as 'draumbr'.
No, Swedish had lost the au-diphtong before Old Swedish time,
so 'draumbr' can't be Old Swedish. Old Swedish has 'drömber' instead.
I quote "Sju vise mästare" (
http://www.nordlund.lu.se/Fornsvenska/Fsv%20Folder/01_Bitar/B.P2.B-
SVM.html )
"Här war en käisare hät herodes oc siw mästara waro oc tha her som
thu sigher oc nw wara Hwem som nakor stor DRÖMBER dömde han skulde
giffwa them et pund gull at the skuldo thydha drömen Herodes
haffde ..."
The language is late 15th century Old Swedish.
>
> In the first chapter of Guta saga we have:
>
> "Fyrstu nat sum þaun saman suafu þa droymdi henni draumbr..."
> (The-first night which they together slept then dreamt she a dream.)
>
> In Old Icelandic:
>
> "Fyrstu nátt sem þau saman sváfu þá dreymdi henni draumr..."
>
> (or rather: "dreymdi hana draum")
>
> In the accusative, where there is no r-ending there is no 'b'.
> In the next sentence we have:
>
> "Þinna draum segþi han firir Hafþa bonda sinum."
> (This dream recounted she to Hafþi husband her.)
>
> OI: "Þenna draum sagði hon fyrir Hafða bónda sínum."
>
I don't think you can say that Old Gutnish is Old Swedish. Gutnish -
together with the Guthnic runes - survived until late 19th century.
The island of Faroy (Fårö in Swedish) had a dialect which still was
more like Old Gutnish than like any Swedish dialect or like Gutnish
spoken in Gotland main island. Take a look at this:
http://faroy.noneto.com/
The Swedish 'mb(r)' pronunciation of 'm(r)' still exists in some
dialects. In Dalecarlian they say 'kumb' (from an older 'kumbr')
which is 'kemur' in Modern Icelandic (English 'comes'). Also 'm'
before 'l' became 'mb' in Swedish. In Dalecarlian they still
say 'gamblur' (< gamblunar < inar gamblu) when Icelanders say 'hinar
gömlu' (the old ones).
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