Hail Habuk!

--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "fjornir <haukurth@...>"
<haukurth@...> wrote:

> Hailaz Kunarâðaz!
>
> (Or would we try for a vocative case? Kunarâð?)

Sjáum til.

Svo segir Nielsen (Pg. 149) um "alugod"; "alawin", "alwid":

"There has been some controversy in recent years as to whether the
personal names ALUGOD (Værlöse clasp); ALAWIN, ALAWID (Skodborg
bracteate) should be regarded as West Germanic suffixless
nominatives (Antonsen 1975:75-7; 1987:23-4) or as regular vocatives
(Stiles 1984:23-34, cf. also Krause 1971:116,118,163,174).
The Væröse clasp is usually dated to about AD 200, which would
make it contemporary with the Thorsberg chape. This makes Antonsen´s
hypothesis of the presence of West Gmc. nominatives without final -Z
(cf. also the Illerup personal name LAGUÞEWA (Antonsen 1987:24)
among the earliest runic inscriptions less plausible, seeing that
the Thorsberg chape with nsm. forms such as -ÞEWAZ and -MARIZ is now
assigned by archeologists to West Gmc. territory. (For a discussion,
see Nielsen 1993a:86) In principle, however, I would not preclude
the possibility that at least the Skodborg names, if the bracteate
is from some time before 500 (cf. Stiles 1984:30), could be West
Gmc. nominatives. It is fairly certain, after all, that specially
West Gmc. innovations occurred before 500.
Personally, I think that it is only to be expected that the
vocative case should have been formally retained in the Early Runic
language. Nominatives like STAINAZ 'stone' and GASTIZ 'gest'
preserved both stem vowel and case suffix, and accusatives like
STAINA and HALI 'stone' (Ström whetstone) retained their vowels, so
why could not ALUGOD, ALAWID, and ALAWIN just be regarded as
regular, distinct vocatives that had lost their case suffix (IE -E,
cf. Krause 1971:85-6, Birkmann 1995:72-3)?
In contrast, Gothic had lost not only its vocative suffix but
also its accusative marker, making the vocative formally identical
(in most cases) with the accusative, cf. nsm SKALKS 'servant',
LAISAREIS 'teacher', SUNUS 'son' vs. v/asm. SKALK, LAISARI, SUNU
(alternative vam. SUNAU). In the West Gmc languages no formal
distinction could be made any longer between the nom., voc. and acc.
cases owing to inflectional loss, whereas in Old Norse the
nominative took over the function of the vocative. This is
surprising because a merger was formally to be expected between the
voc. and acc. cases, the nom. marker -R being retained."

Hvað finnst þér um þetta? ALAGÔÐAZ er IE o-stem og GERM. a-stem,
líkt og HABUKAZ. Eigi Nielsen rétt fyrir sér, þá beygist nafnið svo:

n. Habukaz
a. Habuka
d. Habukai, yngri Habukê
g. Habukas
v. Habuk, eldri Habukê

Smb. Harê Krishna!

Í kvöld er ég að teikna rúnir fyrir þig.

Kwaðjô,
Kunarâðaz.