From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 71451
Date: 2013-10-21
> Linguists and their followers like AIT followers have completely missed
> the bus. The temporal depth of languages is not just a few thousand years
> but tens of thousands of years. This is discussed in a forthcoming article
> in Astha Bharati's *Dialogue *magazine.
>
> It is discussed more fully with natural history background in:
>
> *Vedic Aryans and the Origins of Civilization *4th Edition by Rajaram
> and Frawley, January 2014. Also in
>
> *Genes of Time and the Birth of History *by N.S. Rajaram (January
> 2015?)
>
> Note that language evolution is part of human evolution and hence
> follows *evolutionary* laws. *These are NOT the same artificial rules
> created by linguists. *Nature doesn't do at our bidding. So we need a new
> school of linguists who can understand and apply scientific laws from
> evolution to the study of languages. This is beyond the present generation
> which is still rooted in 19th century ideas based on sound similarities.
> But for those willing to venture into new areas, it can be an exciting
> experience.
>
> As far as Arya is concerned, we (Frawley and I assert, excerpted from
> the Preface):
>
> We next take a brief look at the changes as chronicled in the previous
> three editions and touch on new developments that motivated the present,
> fourth edition.
> · But first we want to emphasize a central point: the term ‘Arya’
> (or ‘Aryan’) when used by us *always *refers to those who created the Vedic
> civilization and not any ethnic or linguistic group. Hence the term ‘Vedic
> Aryans’ in the title. A central theme in our work has been and continues to
> be the identity of the creators of the Harappan civilization and the Vedic
> civilization: in other words Harappans were Vedic Harappans.
> ____________________
>
> My suggestion is to throw all your old theories and books into the
> dustbin of history where they belong and start afresh.
> N.S. Rajaram
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Lalit Mishra <litsol@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> **
>> Linguistics is no rocket science, not more than a lame duck tool in its
>> curent level, The way you people project the absurd theories like
>> AIT/AMT/OIT etc, gathers no value among us the young Aryans of India, You
>> can remain in a small narrow world of your that you make any sense to
>> us, If you people have any sense of a language, you could make better
>> structure of your illogical language that you call english, and for that
>> also motivation and framework you got from Indian Aryans.
>>
>> Linguistic can only show that language "A" has shared a few words from
>> the
>> other language say "B" and if history is known, it can say something
>> about
>> direction the word is moved over the time, beyond this, it knows nothing.
>>
>> Sanskrit is only source, only proto europian languages there is no PIE
>> etc, dont think that you can befool Indians other than those who are
>> paid
>> in profession of history and those historians work or opinion, dosnt have
>> value in India as we know that such Indian historians are no better than
>> copy cat who speak in his western master's language, worthless guys !!
>>
>> The fun and folly that you people make with respect to making decisions
>> on
>> antiquity and origin of Vedic Homeland and that with no knowledge of
>> Vedas, shows your ingratitude only and with this level of so called
>> linguistics, there is no absurdity to this scale, Never be in illusion of
>> that sort.
>>
>> First learn some Sanskrit and then develop skills to understand meaning
>> of
>> Vedic mantra and get yourself evaluated yourself by Indians and then only
>> dare talking on Vedas,Same is the languages like munda that you people
>> neither understand nor speak and still go on to build grammar and then
>> call
>> yourself open minded.
>>
>> Madness is not openness !!
>>
>> Great !!
>>
>> Lalit Mishra
>>
>>
>> *From:* Brian M. Scott <bm.brian@...>
>> *To:* Lalit Mishra <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 20, 2013 3:11 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [tied] RE: Hindu noise-makers, Elst and OIT -- a review
>>
>> ****
>>
>