Re: On Greek anthro:pos 'man'

The shortcoming is that this set of diachronic transformations has
no independent evidence. In itself it's neither good nor bad, but if
compared with a regular etymology like *h2ndhro-h3kw-o-s...

2013/4/9, Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>:

> The relationship would not be through regular Greek. Perhaps some substratal
> non-Greek IE compound *h1ndHus-ro:po-. U dropped as in some Albanian and
> Armenian words; and -r- < -sr- or < rhotacism -s-, as possbile shifts. I'd
> guess *h1n-dHuh2s-h3oKW- > *anthuzoq-o > *anthuroqo- > anthropo-. If it was
> a "normal" Greek word, expected form would * a(n)thyops
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> JS Lopes
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> De: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Terça-feira, 9 de Abril de 2013 10:14
> Assunto: Re: [tied] Re: On Greek anthro:pos 'man'
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> /th/, /r/, /o:/, /p/ (and the absence of /u/, /h/, and /-s-/) would
> remain unexplained: too much for a six-phonemes lexical entry (final
> -os isn't diagnostic)
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> 2013/4/9, Joao S. <josimo70@...>:
>>
>> Could be Greek anthro:pos related to Hit. antuuahhas- / antuhs- 'man' <
>> nom.
>> *h1n-dHueh2-o:s, gen.sg. *h1n-dHuh2-s-os ? It would imply an Anatolic IE
>> substratum in Greece. Maybe Endymion also fits into this root.
>>
>> JS Lopes
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>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@...>
>> wrote:
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>>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister wrote:
>>>
>>> > Isn't Greek -nth- cognate to Anatolian -nd-???
>>>
>>> We (you & I) have discussed this in the past. See my post about Anna
>>> Morpurgo-Davies' arguments against the Pre-Greek substratum in Greek
>>> being
>>> (IE) Anatolian or "para-Anatolian" at
>>>
>>> http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/63882
>>>
>>> The regular reflex of the PIE *-went- suffix ('having X') is the
>>> consonant
>>> cluster -nt- in Greek, and -nt-/-nd- in Anatolian. Why would Greek have
>>> borrowed names in -nd-/-nt- from an Anatolian or "para-Anatolian"
>>> substrate with operating a shift to -nth- against the expected -nd- or
>>> -nt- ?
>>>
>>> Also J. Chadwick ("Greek and Pre-Greek", TPhS 1969, pp. 80-98) stated
>>> that
>>> the -nth- formations in mainland Greece and the Aegean Islands must
>>> represent the relics of a non-IE pre-Greek substrate, not of an
>>> Anatolian
>>> (or "para-Anatolian") IE substrate possessed of -nd-/-nt- formations. He
>>> noted there are no known examples of one and the same IE-inherited root,
>>> common to both the Greek and Anatolian branches, to which is added the
>>> -nth- suffix in Greek and the -nt-/-nd- one in Anatolian.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Francesco
>>>
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