Re: On Greek anthro:pos 'man'

The relationship would not be through regular Greek. Perhaps some substratal non-Greek IE compound *h1ndHus-ro:po-. U dropped as in some Albanian and Armenian words; and -r- < -sr- or < rhotacism -s-, as possbile shifts. I'd guess *h1n-dHuh2s-h3oKW- > *anthuzoq-o > *anthuroqo- > anthropo-. If it was a "normal" Greek word, expected form would * a(n)thyops

JS Lopes

De: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 9 de Abril de 2013 10:14
Assunto: Re: [tied] Re: On Greek anthro:pos 'man'

/th/, /r/, /o:/, /p/ (and the absence of /u/, /h/, and /-s-/) would
remain unexplained: too much for a six-phonemes lexical entry (final
-os isn't diagnostic)

2013/4/9, Joao S. <josimo70@...>:

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> Could be Greek anthro:pos related to Hit. antuuahhas- / antuhs- 'man' < nom.
> *h1n-dHueh2-o:s, gen.sg. *h1n-dHuh2-s-os ? It would imply an Anatolic IE
> substratum in Greece. Maybe Endymion also fits into this root.
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> JS Lopes
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@...> wrote:
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>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister wrote:
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>> > Isn't Greek -nth- cognate to Anatolian -nd-???
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>> We (you & I) have discussed this in the past. See my post about Anna
>> Morpurgo-Davies' arguments against the Pre-Greek substratum in Greek being
>> (IE) Anatolian or "para-Anatolian" at
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>> http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/63882
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>> The regular reflex of the PIE *-went- suffix ('having X') is the consonant
>> cluster -nt- in Greek, and -nt-/-nd- in Anatolian. Why would Greek have
>> borrowed names in -nd-/-nt- from an Anatolian or "para-Anatolian"
>> substrate with operating a shift to -nth- against the expected -nd- or
>> -nt- ?
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>> Also J. Chadwick ("Greek and Pre-Greek", TPhS 1969, pp. 80-98) stated that
>> the -nth- formations in mainland Greece and the Aegean Islands must
>> represent the relics of a non-IE pre-Greek substrate, not of an Anatolian
>> (or "para-Anatolian") IE substrate possessed of -nd-/-nt- formations. He
>> noted there are no known examples of one and the same IE-inherited root,
>> common to both the Greek and Anatolian branches, to which is added the
>> -nth- suffix in Greek and the -nt-/-nd- one in Anatolian.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Francesco
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