Re: Portuguese, Spanish bode "buck"

From: Tavi
Message: 71118
Date: 2013-03-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
<bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
> A Celtic origin would be phonetically implied by a comparison with
> Bavarian butz, butzel 'person or animal charatcterized by a short and
> thick form' < Germanic *butti-z, *buttila-z < PIE *bhud-n'i-s,
> *bhud-n'i-lo-s: PIE *bhud-n'i-s > Celtic *buddi-s >
> Proto-Ibero-Romance *bodde
>
> > Besides of phonetically convoluted (I'm Sean's opposite with regard
to this),
>
> *Bhr.: I hope You are able to explain how Your "link to NEC
> *bHe:mtts^y 'deer, mountain goat' (NCED 258)" can be less "convoluted"
>
> > In this word, I guess the Proto-NEC lateral affricate would
correspond to a
> > dental stop in the Basque (*piti-) and Romance (bode) forms. In
fact, those
> > consonants are somewhat similar to PIE palato-velars in which
they're
> > reflected as lateral fricatives in some languages and velar stops in
others,
> > as discovered by Trubetzkoy in the '30s.
>
> *Bhr.: I'm afraid I haven't understood (especially how can it be less
> convoluted than a correspondence Celtic /dd/ to Proto-Ibero-Romance
> /dd/);
>
It's precisely your supposed Kluge's Law in Celtic which gave this /dd/.
Anyway, you demonstrated your proposed IE etymology and this word are
homonymous in German.