Re: Portuguese, Spanish bode "buck"

From: Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>
Subject: Re: [tied] Portuguese, Spanish bode "buck"
To: "cybalist@yahoogroups.com" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 10:30 PM

 

That's nice. Is there cognates in Celtic languages or another IE languages? There's a lot of sugested IE word for goats, with a lot of different but similar meanings, as deer, roe, lamb, kid, goat, buck, calf, bitch, doe, stag, fawn, ram, sheep, wether, ewe, fallow deer, antelope, gazelle, etc.

JS Lopes

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De: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 19 de Março de 2013 22:06
Assunto: Re: [tied] Portuguese, Spanish bode "buck"

 

A Celtic origin would be phonetically implied by a comparison with
Bavarian butz, butzel 'person or animal charatcterized by a short and
thick form' < Germanic *butti-z, *buttila-z < PIE *bhud-n'i-s,
*bhud-n'i-lo-s: PIE *bhud-n'i-s > Celtic *buddi-s >
Proto-Ibero-Romance *bodde

2013/3/15, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>:
> I checked the DRAE and it doesn't appear. AFAIK, it's obsolete in Spanish.
> I've never heard anyone say it. I've only seen it in medieval and early
> modern Spanish --although in Spain it may be still in use.
> My memory is rusty but I think I once saw it listed as of Celtic origin BUT
> that's often a throwaway category.
> I WOULD also look at forms beginning with /m-/ --remember Spanish muñeca,
> Portuguese boneca
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> From: Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>
> Subject: [tied] Portuguese, Spanish bode "buck"
> To: "Cybalist" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, March 15, 2013, 7:47 AM
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> What's the etymology of Portuguese bode "he-buck"? It looks superficially to
> Germanic *bukka-, but Iberic Romance bode would imply something loke *botem,
> *butem- *Vpotem, *Vputem, where V= any vowel (cf. apotheca > bodega).
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