Re: On Greek thalassa 'sea'

From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70819
Date: 2013-01-28

2013/1/28, stlatos <sean@...>:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
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>> (Non-Unicode transliteration: *dHlh2nk(')ih2 > th'alassa vs.
>> *dHlh2enk(')h2-eh2 > dalagkha:)
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> Then where does this second h2 come from if the only dif. is which fem.
> ending was added?

"Locative I", cf. Metka Furlan, "Hethitische Direktivendung -a(:) und
indoeuropaeische Quellen", in "Anatolisch und Indogermanisch.
Anatolico e indoeuropeo. Akten des Kolloquiums der Indogermanischen
Gesellschaft Pavia 22.-25. September 1998". Herausgegegben von Onofrio
Carruba und Wolfgang Meid (Innsbrucker Beitraege zur
Sprachwissenschaft - Band 100) (Innsbruck: Institut fuer Sprachen und
Literaturen der Universitaet Innsbruck, 2001, 428 S., ISBN
3-85124-679-9), S. 93-117, especially pp. 1'7-112 and 114

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>> kháro:n, leíbe:thron, arphús can (leíbe:thron does) have voiceless
>> */-kH-/, */-tH-/, */-pH-/,
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> Why would kH- > (instead of gH- > ) in:
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> kharopós \ kharo:pós = fierce G; kháro:n = lion Mac;

kháro:n isn't Macedonian, to my (limited) knowledge

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>> therefore no need for "opt." (ánthro:pos <
>> *h2endH-ro-h3kW-o-s has no connection with dró:ps)
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> and how could this not be < andr- anér- ?

Which one? ánthro:pos can't because of /th/, dró:ps can't because
of absence of an-

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>> 2013/1/27, stlatos :
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>> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy wrote:
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>> >> It should be *dÊ°lhâ‚‚nk⠽’⠾ihâ‚‚ > thálassa vs. *dÊ°lhâ‚‚enkâ
>> >> ½â€™â
>> >> ¾hâ‚‚-ehâ‚‚ > dalagkhÄ
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>> > I can't tell what you're writing thanks to the "update" from
>> > yahoo.com,
>> > but if you're questioning why no kH > g in Mac, you should know that in
>> > add.
>> > to:
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>> > thálassa = sea G; dalágkhan (a) Mac;
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>> > Mac shows Ch in words like:
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>> > kháro:n, leíbe:thron, arphús, etc.
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>> > making it likely that dH > tH > T ( > D [opt.) in Mac, with many
>> > details
>> > (including transcription) uncertain.
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>> > There are a few more with uncertain corr.:
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>> > ánthro:pos G; dró:ps Mac;
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>> > áliza = white poplar Mac; alphinia Thes G;
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