Re: Mapping the Origins and Expansion of the Indo-European Language

From: mikewww7
Message: 70679
Date: 2013-01-10

There are a number of papers released on the Y haplogroup R1b over the last couple of years. It's high frequency areas are focused on Western Europe, but there are early (ancient) branches of it found in Eastern Europe and even in Anatolia. Some of the papers contend that the higher diversity (versus frequency) and the presence of the earlier branches as indicative of Southwest Asian origin.

If you add the two distant paternal lineage relatives together, R1a and R1b, you get a very high degree of coverage of IE languages. I'm not proposing that either of these two lineages originated PIE but they seemed to have picked it up and expanded with it to a great extent.

Mike W

--- In, "Richard Wordingham" wrote:
> R1b looks south- and west-European, rather than IE. Just to confuse things, R1b is Caucasian and is strong in Armenian, and might even have been significant amongst Hattic speakers!
> The IE Y-haplotype is R1a1a (not a stable name), but the association peters out in speakers of Germanic and Southern Slavic, and is strongly missing for Celtic, Italic, Albanian, Greek and Armenian. R1a1a evidence might be interpreted as supporting the out-of-India expansion of IE! However, there is also an interpretation as an outrageous coincidence.
> Richard.