Re: Why do Pokorny's roots for water have an "a" in front?

From: dgkilday57
Message: 70560
Date: 2012-12-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
> First peopling. Of course, there's no proof either - otherwise we
> wouldn't discuss on this topic - and there are many other
> possibilities, but our first task is to fix the extreme extensions of
> what is reasonable. Such extremes are by definition scarcely
> attractive, but they are nevertheless necessary. One of these extremes
> is Drew's theory (Non-Anatolian PIE shortly before the earliest
> Non-Anatolian evidence; I don't like Indo-Hittite theory, but this is
> nevertheless a necessary extreme; S. Kalyanaraman puts himself beyond
> this extreme); the other one (on the remote side) is (Europe's) First
> Peopling. Why is it necessary? Because nothing can (still) exclude it.
> Let's leave apart non linguistic consideration and let's concentrate
> on linguistic arguments: the crucial point is how to judge anything
> that isn't universally accepted as PIE heritage (Tavi doesn't accept
> PIE reconstructions and his rejection is even more radical than what
> he states, because he operates with different - if any - soundlaws, so
> his theory is outside the scope of this discussion). As long as
> alleged Pre-IE evidence can receive PIE etymologies according to
> received soundlaws, the discussion must remain open. If and only if
> all these regular PIE etymologies were right (beside being correct),
> the equation PIE dispersal = Europe's First Peopling could gain
> something in probability, although still not definitely proven. I
> presume I can offer a regular PIE etymology for any alleged Pre-IE
> relic and I think such etymology, although not always better, is
> anyway never worse than its alternatives. This is the best linguistic
> discussion we can deepen on this topic

I have no doubt that you CAN offer a PIE etymology for any alleged pre-IE relic, just as you CAN offer a Celtic one for any alleged Ligurian relic, but we run into the same issues of falsifiability.

As for your highly adjustable rate of linguistic change, biblical literalist Albert Cuny used it to argue that the vast variety of human languages could indeed have arisen in the few centuries since Noah's Flood supposedly occurred. Is this the sort of "science" we want to be doing?

DGK