Re: Basque onddo

This can be a general trend (although postalveo-palatal affricates are
particularly rare and difficult in children's speech), but still can't
predict why precisely onddo

2012/11/3, Tavi <oalexandre@...>:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Actually, this is a *sound law* by which some consonants, e.g. /t,
>> > ts/ get into the corresponding palatals /c, tS/. At the same time, I
>> > warned you against the confusion with other types of palatalization
> common
>> > in Romance.
>>
>> > > How is this Sound Law predictable?
>>
>> > You can see its "victims" are velar stops.
>>
>> This makes no sense. Are the 'victims' the starting point or the
> outcome?
>>
> Sorry, I'd have said "targets" instead.
>
>> Also, you seem to be saying that the sound law applies if it applies.
> Would you care to rephrase this coherently?
>>
> 1) In Basque (as well as in fossilized words or idiosyncratic speech in
> Iberian Romances), there's a kind of expressive palatalization by which
> coronal consonants become their corresponding palatals, as if mimicking
> children's language. "Expressive" means it carries some kind of
> affective or diminutive connotation.
> 2) Velar stops can also suffer a similar palatalization, although in
> most cases it can't be considered to be expressive. Quite often the
> outcome is depalatalized, thus becoming a dental consonant.
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