Re: elementum

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:

>
> "There's no need" doesn't imply it isn't correct. Do You find that
> etytmology wrong or at least possible (even if less probable than Your
> one)?
>

An et. like:

> >> >> In Irene Balles' etymology they can be analyzed as related but
> >> >> different
> >> >> compounds:
> >> >> *h1sh2n-h1gw-n > sanguen
> >> >> *h1sh2n-h1gw-i-s > sanguis

doesn't make sense for many reasons; I've given a few. If you want more, I don't know what else could convince you.

> 2012/10/15, stlatos <sean@...>:
> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
> > <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@> wrote:
> >>
> >> 1) Sanguis has both -i- and -i:- in the nominative, so the etymology
> >> does work for *-i-
> >
> >
> > There's no reason for a word ending in -is in L to become -i:s . The opp.
> > isn't true; fem. -i: or -i:s in Skt corresponds to -is in L, making (prob.
> > analogical to masc. -is , -us) change for all such likely in that direction.
> > Therefore, a reason for older -i:s not -is must be found, especially since
> > Old L showed -en or (in asser) -er for a word already known to be an
> > r/n-stem (in Skt, etc.).
> >
> >
> >> 2) Irene Balles text (Lateinische sanguis "Blut", in Compositiones
> >> Indogermanicae in memoriam Jochem Schindler. Herausgegeben von Heiner
> >> Eichner und Hans Christian uschützky unter redaktioneller Mitwirkung
> >> von Velizar Sadovski, S. 3-17) has precisely *-i-, so I had to report
> >> it correctly
> >> 3) In order to explain *-i-, a suffix *-in- would be a regular
> >> explanation, since its function is comparable with the one of both
> >> *-i- and *-n-.
> >
> >
> > There's no reason for that middle -h1gw- in *h1sh2n-h1gw-i-s. Compare
> > iter, itineris (analogical for r/n-stem * iter, itinis), also with the nom.
> > ending carried over into a long oblique. If it had later become X itiner,
> > itineris , it would exactly parallel sanguen.
> >
> >
> > I do believe the IE word contained -in- at one stage, but so did all -mn
> > and r/n-stems, which seldom show it.
> >
> >
> >> This is meant as contribution to the discussion
> >
> >
> > Noted.
> >
> >