Re: pottus, Genua, Durantia (was: Bart; was: Ligurian)

From: Tavi
Message: 69828
Date: 2012-06-18

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
> 7) a different - because chronological rather than genealogical -
> controversy about the relative precedence of Celtic and hypothetical
> other (IE) languages in Cisalpine Gaul, S and C France and E Spain,
> whereas I maintain local Celtic has everywhere evolved in situ from
> PIE, while DGK seems to put Celtic always as latest phase in whatever
> area (therefore leaving no place even for restricted Proto-Celtic
> Urheimat)
>
That's right. As far as we know, Celts had *stratified* societies, leaded by warfare aristocracies who had conquered non-Celtic people. This means their ethnogenesis involved language replacement, thus invalidating your continuity proposition.

However, the question of the Proto-Celtic homeland is entirely different, and some lexical isoglosses shared with Greek and/or Indo-Iranian (from the Steppe paleo-dialect) point to an Eastern location:

*gdon- 'earth, place' ~ Greek khthón 'earth'
*gdonjo- 'human, person'
*ja:s 'chariot' ~ Sanskrit yá:ti 'rides'
*jekka: 'cure, salvation' ~ Greek ákos 'cure, medicine'
*jo- 'which (relative pronoun' ~ Sanskrit ya-, Greek hós
*jorko- 'roebuck' ~ Greek zórks 'gazelle, roedeer'