Re: Origin of *h2arh3-trom 'plough'

From: piervantrink
Message: 69775
Date: 2012-06-06

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" <oalexandre@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@> wrote:
> >
> > No. I'm pointing out that your quasi-religious faith that
> > 'these Germanic-Afrasian (especially Semitic) isoglosses
> > must reflect the languages spoken in Central Europe
> > Neolithic' is just that: an article of faith. Linguistic
> > conclusions require linguistic support.
> >
> I'm sure you're acquainted with Bomhard's and Vennemann's work (I hope
> you won't call them "Pyramidiots" or other silly word.), are you? This
> where I inferenced my conclusion.
>Hello,
It has been (genetically) proven

that all humans descend from a

single human so very logically all

world languages stem ultimately from

the language spoken by this first

human


h2arh3 looks like Arabic h2arath (IE

h2=Arabic laryngeal "h")
plough looks like Arabic falah2
Both words have the same meanings
No surprise as genetics proved that

proto Indo-Europeans were a migrant

neolithic farmer community from

fertile crescent (carriying the

westasian hg R1b)
Please see below
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/

observations/2010/01/19/sowing-

their-seeds-neolithic-farmers-

spawned-most-european-males/

Agriculture emerged on the human

cultural scene about 10,000 years

ago, spreading rapidly through

Europe from the Near East to the

British Isles in about 4,000 years.

But did this world-changing

technology get disseminated via an

expanding wave of industrious

farmers or through word-of-mouth

among local hunter-gatherer

populations?

To help answer this much-debated

question, researchers have peered

into the genetics of modern

Europeans for clues. Mark Jobling of

the University of Leicester in the

U.K. and his colleagues found not

only that agriculture seems to have

spread westward via a new group of

Neolithic people from the Near East,

but also that these new farmers were

incredibly successful with the local

ladies, leaving their genetic traces

in their modern male descendents.

"We focused on the commonest Y-

chromosome lineage in Europe,"

Jobling said in a prepared

statement. The team analyzed a

single haplotype, R1b1b2 (which is

carried by about 110 million men in

Europe today) from 2,574 European

men whose families had been living

in the same location for at least

two generations. This common

haplotype, however, is not randomly

distributed across the continent.

"It follows a gradient from south-

east to north-west," he said. About

12 percent of men in eastern Turkey

have it, whereas some 85 percent of

men carry it in Ireland.

Others have previously speculated

that this distribution was due to

earlier, Paleolithic expansion from

Africa. But Jobling and his fellow

researchers asserted that it

reflects a rapid, more recent

genetic spread during the Neolithic

—one that has a "striking"

correlation with known Neolithic

sites. "The geographical

distribution of diversity within the

haplogroup is best explained by its

spread from a single source from the

Near East via [Turkey] during the

Neolithic," the authors concluded in

their study, which was published

online January 19 in PLoS Biology.

"In total, this means that more than

80 percent of European Y chromosomes

descend from incoming farmers,"

geneticist Patricia Balaresque, also

of the University of Leicester and

lead study author, said in a

prepared statement. "In contrast,

most maternal genetic lineages seem

to descend from hunter-gatherers."

How could these early European

ancestors come from such different

groups? "To us, this suggests a

reproductive advantage for farming

males over indigenous hunter-

gatherer males during the switch

from hunting and gathering to

farming," Balaresque said. "Maybe,

back then, it was just sexier to be

a farmer."

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