Re: *bher- 'boil' -- was-- Re: Ligurian

Who has ever thought that "these C. A. words are ALL loanwords"?
Centrainly not I. What are You proposing?

2012/4/28, The Egyptian Chronicles <the_egyptian_chronicles@...>:

> bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
> 2. Bormani, just like Bormio, can better proceed from *bhor-mo- (*bher-
> 'boil')
>
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> ISHINAN: Naturally, you are referring to: barm, L. fermentum, Skt. bhurati,
> brew (PIE root *bhreue to bubble, boil, effervesce, froth) etc.
>
> If so, then there is the following unresolved problem that keeps creeping up
>
> in the face of Indo-European hypothesis.
>
> For example, the Classical Arabic root of "fwr" yields the following
> meanings:
>
> http://www.theegyptianchronicles.com/LINKS/FWR.html
>
> see fig#1
>
> C.A. Fuwara-h: froth, or foam, that boils, boils over a cooking pot, brew,
> brewing of wine
>
> Compare with:
>
> barm O.E. beorma "yeast, leaven," also "head of a beer," from P.Gmc.
> *bermon- (cf. Du. berm, M.L.G.barm), from PIE root *bher- "to cook, bake"
> (cf. L. fermentum "substance causing fermentation," L. fervere "to boil,
> foam," Thracian Gk.brytos "fermented liquor made from barley," Rus. bruja
> "current," O.Ir. bruth "heat;" O.E.beorma "yeast;" O.H.G. brato "roast
> meat"), the original sense thus being "make a drink by boiling." Related:
> Brewed; brewing.
>
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> http://www.theegyptianchronicles.com/LINKS/FWR.html
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> (Fig. # 2)
>
> C.A. Fuwwara-h: that moves and turns around
>
> compare with:
>
> Skt. bhurati "moves convulsively, quivers"
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> http://www.theegyptianchronicles.com/LINKS/FWR.html
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> (Fig # 3)
>
> C.A. fuwwara-h: spring, source of water, well,water-trough, basin, pool and
> pond.
>
> far: It wells, pours forth from the spring, source.
>
> Compare with:
>
> Gk. phrear "well, spring, cistern,"
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> http://www.theegyptianchronicles.com/LINKS/FWR.html
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> (Fig. # 4)
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> C.A. fwr: fury, ebulation of anger and rage .
>
> Compare with:
>
> fury: late 14c., "fierce passion," from O.Fr. furie (14c.), from L. furia
> "violent passion, rage, madness," related to furere "to rage, be mad."
>
>
> They all, without exception, date from the Classical Arabic period and
> happen to correspond to the various Germanic, Latin, Greek, Celtic, and
> Sanskrit COMBINED definitions.
>
> Are we to entertain the idea that these C. A. words are ALL loan words?
>
> Unfortunately, this would defy reason, since loan words are usually borrowed
> haphazardly, NEVER to correspond systematically, so neatly and conveniently,
> to a single root from a hypothetical PIE *bher- .
>
> Ishinan