Re: Pre-Greek loanwords

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@...> wrote:

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> The second is *th2eur-,
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> > No, this is an ad-hoc reconstruction.
> > Actually it's *(s)teur-.
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> How is ad-hoc /s/-mobile preferable to an ad-hoc laryngeal?
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But this can't be ad-hoc as we've got both Germanic *Tiur-a- and *stiur-a-.

> And with what acrobatics do you get the Greek form?
>

This would be from *teh2ur-.

Both IE *taur- and Semitic *Tawr- point to a common Neolithic source *tHaur-, adapted as *(s)teur- with the IE Ablaut vowel. So even if it's likely to have been originated in some European Neolithic paleo-IE dialect, this can't be a PIE word in the traditional sense.