From: Tavi
Message: 69332
Date: 2012-04-14
>We've got cognates in Indo-Iranian *k^sep- and Hittite ispant- 'night'. But as Greek -ph- corresponds to stop series I instead of series III, pséphas must be a "Pelasgian" (a variety of Thracian) loanword, as in that language series I was voiceless aspirated as in Germanic and Armenian.
> > According to R.S.P. BEEKES "PRE-GREEK. A LANGUAGE RECONSTRUCTED",
> > there seems to be a relationship between many Greek words meaning
> > "darkness":
> > psephas
> > knephas
> > dnophos
> > zophos
>
> also gnophos
>
> > Beekes tried to relate knephas/dnophos < *kdnophos, but he couldnt
> > connect all four names.
> >
> > psephas, cf. Sansk ksap- < *kWseph-
> >
> *dhnebh- < *dhnembh- < *tÅ-áN- < *taÅ´-aN-? [Pokorny's *tem- "darkness"]This reminds me of Altaic *tHjú:ni 'night, yesterday, dark'.
> (*nembh- is then no 'Kontaminationsform')
>
> which also takes care of the odd Lithuanian form with d-IMHO This would be explained as a denasalization *n- > *d-.
>
> Semantically "darkness" and "cloud" match.That's right, but 'night, evening' has got preference.
>