Re: Hittite 'hartagga' (was: HORSA vs. EXWA)

From: Richard Wordingham
Message: 68900
Date: 2012-03-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@...> wrote:
> There's no way to be sure if it's /xartka-/ , /xartaka-/ , or /xartakka-/ , but /xartka-/ is implied by other branches. Keep in mind the order of TK in PIE isn't proven by this any more than the presence of a in Skt vs e/o in Latin proved a but no e/o in PIE.

I think the order TK rather then KT is demonstrated by markedness.

I've now dug up the spelling in Puhvel's Hittite Etymology.

For the plain animal meaning:

HAR-TÁG-GA-AS (nom. s.)
HAR-TÁG-GA-AN (acc. s.)
HAR-TÁK-KAN (acc. s.)
HAR-TÁG-GA-AS (gen. s.)

(TÁK, TÁG and TÁQ are contextual transliterations of the same symbol.)

For the person in ritualsː

LÚ-HAR-TÁG-GA-AS (nom. s.)
LÚ-HAR-TA-GA-AS (nom. s.)
LÚ-HAR-TA-KA-AS (nom. s.)
LÚ-HAR-TA-GA-AN (gen. s.)
LÚ-HAR-TÁK-KI (dat-loc. s.)

(LÚ is interpreted as a determinative.)

I don't see any sound evidence for /hartaka-/ - the writings as a single consonant are overridden by the geminate *writings*.

One awkward thought arises - I don't see any basis for reading HAR as /har/ rather than /hur/.

Richard.