Re: Hittite 'hartagga' (was: HORSA vs. EXWA)

From: Tavi
Message: 68895
Date: 2012-03-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" richard.wordingham@ wrote:
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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" <oalexandre@> wrote:
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> > > I'm afraid there's no such "thorny cluster" here. As I've explained in
> > > another post, the geminate velar of Hittite hartagga- must be a suffix
> > > like the one found in the Turkic cognate qarsaq 'steppe fox'. With the
> > > help of external data, I reconstruct an affricate sibilant (possibly
> > > alveolo-palatal) in the internal cluster *rC.
> >
> > What's the evidence for a 'geminate velar' in 'hartagga-'? While I haven't located the spellings of the word, 'hartagga-' seems to be a reading of a spelling of /hartka-/.
>
Regardless of the exact reading of the word (impaired by syllablic scripts), IMHO the velar stop belongs to a SUFFIX and isn't part of the root.

> There's no way to be sure if it's /xartka-/, /xartaka-/, or /xartakka-/, but /xartka-/ is implied by other branches.
>
As I said before, I don't think there's evidence for reconstructing a cluster *tkĀ“ here.