From: stlatos
Message: 68528
Date: 2012-02-09
>You are doing my work for me; all those words ended in "laryngeals". There is no reason for your *-dHlo-/*-dHleh2- to only appear after "laryngeals", so the only choice is tlo>tHlo after x(). Of course, t>tH after x() is seen in other kinds of words, some you also mention, so making *tlo/dHlo an exception or PIE oddity is unnecessary. The dif. in e/0 grade in -tlo-words is found in all stems, not just those ending in "laryngeals", and is apparently due to dif. analogy removing an older opt./paradigm dif./ablaut.
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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> > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
> > > Those Italic words reflect PIE *sth4-dHlo-, and no optional soundlaws are needed.
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> > There's no ev. for any *-dHlo- instead of *-tlo- anywhere. In Greek and Italic it seems almost impossible that they would follow so many V (that is, older (V)x which caused t>tH, etc.) instead of having random distribution for stem-endings. For ex., why are tafle (loc) U; tabula L; the same? Where are the *-tlo- endings after -a- < -x-?
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> A deverbative stem in *-dHlo-/*-dHleh2- is supported by Greek <génethlon> (Aesch.), <genéthle:> (Hom.) 'birth, origin, descent'. Like this word, Latin <pa:bulum> 'food, fodder, nutriment' and <fa:bula> 'talk, tale, story' have full grade, but <stabulum> 'abode, den, stall' has zero-grade of the root, as does <tabula>.