> GK: I think he means that Roman influence replaced Celtic
> influence at that time, affecting the Bastarnae who remained north
> of the Danube and in contact with the Romans.
How is this Romanization dated? By what types of Roman(?) finds?
****GK: He doesn't get into minute details here, because he's only making a general point. The "Romanization" he speaks of replaces the earlier "La Tenization". The Chernyakhiv culture of later times (which absorbed this oparticular Bastarnian area) was also "Romanized" in this sense, i.e. under the strong influence of the newer Danubian cultural centers.*****
> 2. Why would that make the other Bastarnae avoid them?
> ****GK: I think he's just saying that the Roman influence
> discernible in the material culture of the Bastarnians of the south
> did not reach their scattered northern remnants.*****
>
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"The Poleski variant of the Zarubintsy culture at that time disappears, and its descendants seem to migrate into the area of the Przeworsk culture, where some mixed Przeworsk Zarubintsy groups are formed Zubritskaya, the Rakhny variant, the Grinewicz(?) Wielke - Czerniczyn variant. In that(?), they are distinguished not by a LaTènized but by a Romanized appearance. Interestingly, there is another observation by V.E. Eremenko: the classical Zarubintsy tradition of the Upper Dnepr Chechersk-Kisteli variant is most impressively preserved in the sites of the Pochep and Abidnya variants (the latter corresponds to the Grini variant of other authors), thus(?) "the impression heaps up(?) that the "classic" Zarubintsy avoided communication with their "Romanized" family."
http://translation.babylon.com/russian/to-english/
избегал
"v. (perf. >избегнуть) avoid, shun; evade, dodge, elude; escape, flee; shrink "
No, he's saying they appear to have avoided them.
*****GK: He's certainly emphasizing the fact that earlier groups of classical Bastarnia became strongly estranged from one another. His proof is the lack of material correspondence in their culture, indicating a break in contact, "avoidance" if you like. Note that Nosevych contends that the northerners were more "Venedi" than "Bastarnae" from the very start. After 50 CE all these groups (scattered Bastarnae remnants of the north, Venedi, and local "BaltoSlavs") were involved in the process of Old Slavic ethnogenesis acc. to him. I broadly agree with this although I don't support many of his particulars. ****8
And BTW, what is Ð"риневиче Ð'ельке called otherwise? And Ð"рини?
*****GK: Could you translate the gibberish for me? "*****
Torsten