Re: floor

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 67998
Date: 2011-08-25

I read it in a Medieval poem in a grad course on Medieval Spanish. I have never taken any courses in Galician and only Intro. to Portuguese, although I'm fluent in Portunhol. My Medieval Spanish class is the only place I could have picked up this word. Remember that I'm the person who introduced the word to the list. The word is not used in contemporary Spanish and probably dropped out almost a 1,000 years. There are no larks, per se, in the Americas, although in English we do have birds that we call larks. The only word in contemporary Spanish that I know of is calandria, although I've seen alondra in Medieval and Renaissance Spanish and I think it's regional in Spain --but I specialize in Central American literature. There are a few lusismos in my wife's Spanish but laverca is not one of them.

From: o_cossue <o.cossue@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:48 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: floor

 


Hi. As I said - my last message was apparently lost in hyperspace - I've been searching for 'laverca' in two corpora of Spanish: the RAE's CORDE, and Mark Davies' Corpus del Espanol... To no effect. The word in nowhere to be found. Also, I've consulted an interesting paper on the popular and dialectal names of the lark in Spain (ifc.dpz.es/recursos/publicaciones/10/86/05estevezetal.pdf), but again they only found the form 'laverca' in Galicia, where it is the more common form. Meyer-Lübke knew nothing of Spanish laverca (cf. Romanisches etymologisches Wörterbuch, s.v. *laiwerko), and every reference I read indicates that Coromines considered this word as an exclusive (in Iberia) Galician-North Portuguese word. So I suppose you were misinformed on this... Professors do not always give accurate info on marginal facts. Anyway, again, proving me wrong is as easy as presenting an example of use in Castilian Spanish.

Regards,
Froaringus

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
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> Just go back to Medieval texts and you'll find it. My doctorate is in Spanish, not Portuguese and I've never studied Galician, si how did I know that term? By remembering it from a course on Medieval Spanish. Spanish has had 3 words for "lark": laverca, alondra and calandria --although they may just be different species.
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> From: o_cossue <o.cossue@...>
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:32 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: floor
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> Er... Not at all, or at least I am not aware of that fact. Anyway, proofing me wrong it&#347; as easy as showing a simple example of use of ´laverca´ in Spanish
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> Froaringus.
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