Re: was The Finnic issue

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> >
> > Also
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendsyssel
> > 'Vendel (Old Danish Wændil) was also the ancient name of the
> > Limfjord itself.'
> > The
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limfjord
> > would be on the route between the Armorican and the Baltic Veneti.
> > According to
> > http://www.thistedmuseum.dk/Historisk%20%C3%85rbog/%C3%85rgang%201963/Rolighed,%20Jens%20%20%20Fra%20Vust%20sogn%20i%20svundne%20tider.pdf
> > there was a portage at
> > Vust, 1231 Vrst (as an island), 1465 Wost, locally [u?st]

http://maps.google.dk/maps?q=vust&hl=da&sll=55.869147,11.228027&sspn=6.797677,14.128418&z=14

> > with the NWBlock/Venetic ending -st-
>
> HÃ¥ndbog i danske stednavne
> '162. Vust s. V. Han h. 1200-t. Vrst, 1465 Wost.
> Navnet yderst dunkelt. ...' [extremely opaque]
> cf.
> '161. Vrist, Harboør s. Vandfuld h. 1595 Paa Wrist, 1610 wrist.
> Subst. wrist „bøjning, bugt".' [ie. cognate with English wrist; ??]

http://maps.google.dk/maps?q=vrist&hl=da&ll=56.612798,8.098297&spn=0.208198,0.441513&sll=57.122078,9.110413&sspn=0.205382,0.441513&z=11

> at another old exit from the Limfjord

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/47751
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/64781
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/64782
etc

probably both
*aN-i/u-st- -> *(w)u-st-
and
*aN-i/u-st- -> *(w)ur-st- (Orust etc)
"those at the mouth (of the river)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orust


Torsten