Re: On the old amber road?

From: george knysh
Message: 67745
Date: 2011-06-12





From: Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: On the old amber road?

 
W dniu 2011-06-11 15:14, george knysh pisze:

> GK: Another possibility. If "Butones" is a mistranscribed "Gutones",
> could "Mugilones" be a mistranscribed "Rugilones" (after all the Rugi
> were right next door and twixt Vistula and Oder...)

They have been so emended before:
http://tinyurl.com/6djxh7w

The problem is that there are no +Rugilones among the attested variants
of the actual ethnonym <Rugii> (though the complex suffix *-ilan-,
*-ilo:n- is common in Germanic diminutive formations -- suffice it to
mention Attila, Wulfila and of course Rugila the Hun).
GK: And there is Ptolemy's "Rougicleioi"  cf. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Periods/Roman/_Texts/Ptolemy/2/10.html 
(scroll down)  why the "k"? Like in the later "S-k-laboi"? Or something else?
 
****GK: I realized this probably wouldn't work even before you corrected the above. But thank you for the useful explanation. Still the emendation of "Mugilones" appears fairly plausible and does not conflict with the garbled Ptolemy nor with the geographical/historical documentation data. It's the precise linguistic support which is doubtful. But it's not absolutely nevessary.****
 
 
 There have also
been inconvincing attempts to analyse <Mugilones> as a Slavic name (from
*mogyla 'burial mound, kurgan').

Piotr