Oh, and this is relevant:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/58962
Torsten
****GK: And perhaps also this:
Strabo 7,1,3 -- "Boihaemum, the domain of Marabodus, the place whither he caused to migrate, not only several other peoples, but in particular the Marcomanni, his fellow-tribesmen;
for after his return from Rome this man, who before had been only a private citizen, was placed in charge of the affairs of state, for, as a youth he had been at Rome and had enjoyed the favour of Augustus, and on his return he took the rulership and acquired, in addition to the peoples aforementioned, the Lugii (a large tribe), the Zumi, the Butones, the Mugilones, the Sibini etc...
The Lugii would be just across the Moravian Gate, at the sources of both Vistula and Oder. The Butones, as we know, are deemed a mistranscribed "Gutones"... The Zumi remain unidentified. Perhaps they (or the Mugilones and Sibini beyond the Goths would be Ptolemy's "Venedi"? Re Zumi and Sibini cf. possibly here:
one amber road for the period 8BCE-->18 CE?
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