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Dα~οι, Dάοι; sing., Dα~οÏ, DάοÏ, DαÏ
~οÏ, DÄvos, Davus, Daus
(also used as anthoponym), older designation of the Dacians
1.
Strab. 7, 3, 12:
γÎγονε δ`ε κα`ι `Î¬Î»Î»Î¿Ï Ïη~Ï ÏÏÏÎ±Ï Î¼ÎµÏιÏμ`Î¿Ï ÏÏ
μμÎνÏν `εκ ÏαÂλαιοÏ
~⢠Ïο`Ï
Ï Î¼`εν Dακο`Ï
Ï ÏÏοÏαγοÏεÏοÏ
Ïι Ïο`Ï
Ï Î´`ε GÎÏαÏ, GÎÏÎ±Ï Î¼`εν Ïο`Ï
Ï ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Ï`ον Î ÏνÏον κεκλιμÎνοÏ
Ï ÎºÎ±`ι ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Ï`ην ´ÎÏ, Dακο`Ï
Ï Î´`ε Ïο`Ï
Ï Îµ`Î¹Ï Ï`ανανÏία ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Ïήν GεÏμανίαν κα`ι Ï`Î±Ï Ïον `ÎÏÏÏοÏ
ÏηγάÏ, ο´`Ï
Ï Î¿`ι~μαι DάοÏ
Ï ÎºÎ±Î»ÎµÎ¹~Ïθαι Ï`ο Ïαλαίον, `αÏ' ο´Ï
~ κα`ι ÏαÏ`α Ïοι~Ï `AÏÏιÏοι~Ï `ÏεÏÏλαÏε Ï`α ÏÏ~ν ο`ικεÏÏ~ν `ονÏμαÏα GÎÏαι
κα`ι Dα~οι.
[But there is also another division of the country which has endured from early times, for some of the people are called Daci, whereas others are called Getae - Getae, those who incline towards the Pontus and the east, and Daci, those who incline in the opposite direction towards Germany and the sources of the Ister. The Daci, I think, were called Daï in early times; whence the slave names "Geta" and "Daüs"]
Steph. Byz. 216, 22; o´ι Dα~κοι, ο´` Ï
Ï ÎºÎ±Î»Î¿Ï
~μεν DάοÏ
Ï.
Luc. salt. 29: DάÏν κα`ι ΤιβίÏν κα`ι μαγείÏÏν
ÏÏÏÏÏÏα.
Eust. comm. ad Dion. Per. 305:
´ÏÏι Ïο`Ï
Ï DÎ¬ÎºÎ±Ï DάοÏ
Ï `εκÏλοÏ
ν ÏινÎÏ⢠ÏηÏ`ιν o`Ï
~v κα`ι ´o GεÏγÏάÏοÏ,
´ÏÏι ο´ι Dάκαι Dάοι ÏοÏε `ÏνομάζονÏο. -
2.
DαÏ
~οÏ, DÄvos as slave name in neweÂr comedy (cf. K. Gatzert,
De nova com., Dissert. GieÃen 1913, 71).
Herond. 5, 68: ´η DάοÏ
Ïιμή.
Anthol. Palat. 14, 123, 10: DÎ¬Î¿Ï Î´' ε`ίÏοÏι μνα~Ï `εÏÎÏÏ.
IG 22, 8614: DÎ±Î¿Ï Â´ÎÏακλεÏÏηÏ,
8615: DÎ±Î¿Ï DαοÏ
´ÎÏακλεÏÏηÏ;
42, 650 from Epidauros: βÏμ`ον ΠανθείÏ, ´ιεÏε`Ï
Ï Â´Î¹Î´ÏÏÏαÏο DαοÏ;
11, 2, 111 from Delos, 23; `εγ μεÏοίκÏν DÎ±Î¿Ï Bαλά(κÏοÏ
);
12, 8, 177 from Samothrace, 5: DÎ±Î¿Ï (under μÏÏÏαι);
12, 8, 592 from Thasos: DÎ±Î¿Ï `AÏολλο ---.
JHS 24, 1904, 33 Nr. 49 from Kyzikos:
a) DιÏδ[Ï]Ïε DαοÏ
Ï[α]ι~Ïε,
b) Îμβιλε DαοÏ
Ïαι~Ï[ε.
ÎΡΠ4, 31 from Olbia: AÎ´Î±Î¹Î¿Ï DαοÏ
´ιÏÏεÏÏ.
CIL
6, 5866: C. Iulius Davos faber;
6, 14993: Ti. Claudio Dao;
6, 19221: Davos;
6, 25170 a: P. Publio Dao;
6, 25650: Dav[os];
6, 27489: Q. Titi Q. 1 Davi;
6, 33555: Daus Caesaris (servus);
6, 35612: C. Aufidio C. 1. Davo coniugi;
10, 4016 from Capua: M. Antonio Davi;
11, 3885 from Capena: d. m. Ti. Claudi Aug. l. Dai;
14, 2877 from Praeneste: Davos Calidus.
Not. Scav. 1904, 438 from Rom: T. Precilius T. O. l. Davos.
Cod. Iust. 9, 35, 2 (anno 230): Imp. Alex. A. Davo.
Acc. to Hdt. 1, 125 a nomad people in mid-Iran call themselves Dάοι.
DάοÏ, Dα~Î¿Ï as anthroponym occurs frequently in the parts of Asia Minor not belongiung to Bithynia, esp. in Phrygia, where it appears also as theonym (cf.
Kretschmer Einl. 202;
Ramsay JHS 38, 1918, 168;
Sundwall LN 65).
There is further the Phrygian appellative
δάοÏ⢠´Ï
Ï`ο ΦÏÏ
γÏ~ν λÏÎºÎ¿Ï Hesych.,
which by Kretschmer Einl. 211 is joined with OBg. daviti "strangle" from the root dhaw-. Davus as anthroponym occurs also in the Celtic language area (cf. Holder AC 1, 1245).
Worth considering is the attempt of WT. Thr. II 2, 29, to derive DÄvos from the root dhe:- "colloÂcare, ponere" and consequently interpret it as "settler, farmer".
Dακοί, Dα~κοι, Dάκαι, Dα~και, DάκεÏ, Daci, Dacisci, Dagae,
Daces
(sing. Dα~κοÏ, Dάξ, Dacus, Daqus, Daciscus, Daeisqus)
stem known from the 2nd cent. BCE (by the Greek often confused with the GÎÏαι);
Dακία, Dacia their country (between Dniestr, the Carpathians and the Danube). -
1.
Strab.
7, 3, 12:
γÎγονε δε κα`ι `Î¬Î»Î»Î¿Ï Ïη~Ï ÏÏÏÎ±Ï Î¼ÎµÏιÏμÏÏ ÏÏ
μμÎνÏν `εκ ÏαλαιοÏ
~⢠Ïο`Ï
Ï Î¼`εν γ`Î±Ï Dακο`Ï
Ï ÏÏοÏαγοÏεÏοÏ
Ïι ÏοÏ
Ï Î´`ε GÎÏαÏ, GÎÏÎ±Ï Î¼`εν Ïο`Ï
Ï ÏÏÎ¿Ï Ï`ον Î ÏνÏον κεκιμÎÂνοÏ
Ï ÎºÎ±`ι ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Ï`ην ´ÎÏ, DαÏοÏÏ Î´`ε Ïο`Ï
Ï Îµ`Î¹Ï Ï`ανανÏία ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Ï`ην GεÏμανίαν κα`ι Ï`Î±Ï ÏοÏ
~ `ÎÏÏÏοÏ
ÏηγάÏ, ο´`Ï
Ï Î¿`ι~μαι DάοÏ
Ï ÎºÎ±Î»ÎµÎ¹~Ïθαι Ï`ο ÏαλαιÏν
(acc. to which the Dacians are descendants of the Daoi):
[But there is also another division of the country which has endured from early times, for some of the people are called Daci, whereas others are called Getae - Getae, those who incline towards the Pontus and the east, and Daci, those who incline in the opposite direction towards Germany and the sources of the Ister.]
7, 3, 13: ´ομÏÂγλÏÏÏοι δ' ε`ιÏ`ιν ο´ι Dακο`ι Ïοι~Ï GÎÏαιÏ.
[The language of the Daci is the same as that of the Getae]
Dio
51, 22:
ÏαÏ
~Ïά Ïε ο`Ï
~ν εÏήÏθη, κα`ι `αθÏÏοι ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Î±Î»Î»Î®Î»Î¿Ï
Ï Dακοι Ïε κα`ι ΣοÏ
η~βοι `εμαÏÎÏανÏο. ε`ιÏ`ι δε ο´Ï
~Ïοι μ`εν ÎελÏοί, `εκει~νοι δε δ`η ΣκÏθαι ÏÏÏÏον Ïινά. κα`ι ´οι μεν ÏÎÏαν ÏοÏ
~ ´ΡήνοÏ
´ÏÏ Î³Îµ Ï`ακÏιβ`ÎµÏ Îµ`ιÏει~ν, --- ο´ι δ`ε `εÏ' `αμÏÏÏεÏα Ïον ÎÏÏÏοÏ
νÎμονÏαι, `αλλ' ο´ι μ`εν `εÏ`ι Ïάδε α`Ï
ÏοÏ
~ κα`ι ÏÏ`Î¿Ï Ïη,~ ΤÏιβαλλικη,~ ο`ικοÏ
~νÏÎµÏ `ÎÏ Ïε Ï`ον Ïη~Ï ÎÏ
ÏÎ¯Î±Ï Î½Î¿Î¼`ον ÏελοÏ
~Ïι κα`ι ÎÏ
Ïοί, Ïλ`ην ÏαÏ`α ÏÎ¿Î¹Ï ÏάνÏ
~` εÏιÏÏÏίοιÏ, `ονομάζονÏαι, ο´ι δε `εÏÎκεινα Dακο`ι κÎκληνÏαι, ε`ίÏε δ`η GÎÏαι ÏινÎÏ Îµ`ίÏε κα`ι ÎÏα,~ÎºÎµÏ ÏοÏ
~ DακικοÏ
~ γÎνοÏ
Ï ÏοÏ
~ Ï`ην ´ΡοδÏÏην ÏοÏ`ε `ενοικήÏανÏÎ¿Ï `ÏνÏεÏ
[These beasts, accordingly, were brought in, and moreover Dacians and Suebi fought in crowds with one another. The latter are Germans, the former Scythians of a sort. The Suebi, to be exact, dwell beyond the Rhine (though many people elsewhere claim their name), and the Dacians on both sides of the Ister; those of the latter, however, who live on this side of the river near the country of the Triballi are reckoned in with the district of Moesia and are called Moesians, except by those living in the immediate neighbourhood, while those on the other side are called Dacians and are either a branch of the Getae are Thracians belonging to the Dacian race that once inhabited Rhodope. ]
(Here Dio, as noted in WT. Thr. I 71 and 101, had in mind the Dι~οι and the DιακÏν γÎÎ½Î¿Ï in Thuc. 7, 27, 1, changing without further ado the latter to DακικÏν γÎνοÏ, although he wanted to make the Dι~οι the ancestors of the Dacians);
67, 6:
Dακο`Ï
Ï Î´`ε α`Ï
Ïο`Ï
Ï ÏÏοÏαγοÏεÏÏ, ´ÏÏÏÎµÏ ÏοÏ
κα`ι α`Ï
Ïο`ι ´εαÏ
Ïο`Ï
Ï ÎºÎ±`ι ´ΡÏμαι~οί ÏÏÎ±Ï `ονομάζοÏ
Ïιν, ο`Ï
κ `αγνοÏ~ν ´ÏÏι ´ÎλλήνÏν Ïιν`ÎµÏ GÎÏÎ±Ï Î±`Ï
Ïο`Ï
Ï Î»ÎγοÏ
Ïιν, ε`ιÏ' οÏθÏ~Ï Îµ`ίÏε κα`ι μ`η λÎγονÏεÏ⢠`εγ`Ï Î³`Î±Ï Î¿`ι~δα GÎÏÎ±Ï Ïο`Ï
Ï Â´Ï
ÏÎÏ ÏοÏ
~ A´ίμοÏ
ÏαÏ`α Ï`ον `ÎÏÏÏον ο`ικοÏ
~νÏαÏ.
[I call the people Dacians, the names used by the natives themselves as well as by the Romans, though I am not ignorant that some Greek writers refer to them as Getae, whether that is the right form or not; for the Getae of whom I myself know are those that live beyond the Haemus range, along the Ister.]
Monum. Ancyr. 5, 48 - 49:
μεÏαÏθ`εν Ï`ο `εμ`ον ÏÏÏάÏεÏ
μα ÏÎÏαν `ÎÏÏÏον Ï`α DάκÏν `Îθνη ÏÏοÏÏάγμαÏα δήμοÏ
´ΡÏμαίÏν ´Ï
ÏομÎνειν `ηνάγÏαÏεν.
[my own army was led across the Danube and compelled the tribes of the Dacians to submit to the orders of the Roman people.]
Diοn. Per. 305: DακÏ~ν `άÏÏεÏÎ¿Ï Î±`ι~α.
Stud. 20 Nr. 139 (531 CE), 2:
ΦλαÏÎ¹Î¿Ï Îηνα~Ï Â´Î¿ κα`ι Gε[ÏÏγ]Î¹Î¿Ï ÏÏÏα[ÏιÏ]ÏÎ·Ï Î¬Ï[ιθμ]οÏ
~ ÏÏ~ν
γενναιοÂÏάÏÏν DακÏ~ν.
Steph. Byz. 216, 22: ο´ι Dα~κοι, ο´` Ï
Ï ÎºÎ±Î»Î¿Ï
~μεν DάοÏ
Ï.
Appian. Illyr. 23:
Â´Ï Î´`ε (= ´ο Îαι~ÏαÏ), ÏÏοÏ
Ï`αν `εÏαγαγει~ν `ÎÏη κα`ι ´ομήÏοÏ
Ï Â´ÎµÎºÎ±Ï`ον λαβει~ν, ´ίν' `αÏÏαλÏ~Ï ÏαμιείÏ, Ïη,~ ÏÏλει (=
ΣεγÎÏÏη,) ÏÏÏ,~Ïο `εÏ`ι Dα~καÏ.
Proc. bell. 5, 15, 27: ÏοÏÏÏν (== ÎοÏικÏ~ν) δ`ε Dα~καί Ïε κα`ι ΠαννÏÎ½ÎµÏ `εν δεξια,~ ο`ικοÏ
~Ïιν.
Eust. comm. ad Dion. Per. 305 ´ÏÏι Ïο`Ï
Ï DάÏÎ±Ï DάοÏ
Ï `εκάλοÏ
ν ÏινÎÏ. ÏηÏ`ιν ο`Ï
~ν κα`ι ´ο GεÏγÏάÏοÏ, ÏÏι ο´ι Dάκαι Dάοι ÏοÏ`ε `ÏνομάζονÏο.
Cecaum. Strat. 74 (ed. WassiÂlewsky and Jernstedt, Petrop. 1896): ο´ι
λεγÏμενοι Dα~και κα`ι BÎÏοι (as ancestors of the Vlachs).
Suid.: DάκεÏ⢠´οι νÏ
~ν ΠαÏζινακίÏαι λεγÏμενοι⢠´η ε`Ï
θει~α DάκοÏ.
Caes. bell. Gall 6, 25, 2: ... Hercynia silva ... perÂtinet ad fines Dacorum et Anartium.
Plin. NH4, 80: alias Getae, Daci Romanis dicti, --- montes vero et saltus (inter Danuvium atque Hercynium saltum) pulsi ab iis (= Iazygibus) Daci ad Pathissum amnem;
7, 50: quarto partu Dacorum originis nota in bracchia reddita:
22, 2: maresque etiam apud Dacos et Sarmatas corpora sua inscribunt.
Pomp. Trog. hist. 32, 3, 16: Daci quoque suboles Getarum sunt.
Monum. Ancyr. 5, 48 - 49: trans Danuvium ex[erÂcitus me]us ductus Da[cor]um im[perio populi Romani perferre coegit].
[my own army was led across the Danube and compelled the tribes of the Dacians to submit to the orders of the Roman people]
Hor. carm. 3, 8, 18: DÄci Cotisonis agmen;
serm. 2, 6, 53: numquid de DÄcis audisti?
TP 8, 4: Dagae (d. h. Dacae, wie Sagae TP 12, 1/2 statt Sacae).
Iord. Rom. 217: Daces. -
2.
Herodian. 1, 147, 27 (Lentz): Dα~ÎºÎ¿Ï `ÎθνοÏ, ´`ο κα`ι Dα~Î¿Ï ÎºÎ±Î»ÎµÎ¹~Ïαι.
Lascar. Gramm. bei Lobeck. Par. 96: Dάξ.
Hor. carm. 1, 35, 9: DÄcus asper.
CIL
3, 1435515 from Sopron: Sassa coniun[x] et conliberta nat(ione) Daca:
6, 1801: d. m. Ziai Tiati fil. Dacae uxori Piepori regis Coisstobocensis;
6, 2495: Iul(ius) Secundinus e. v. k. coh. III pr. Salarior. XXVII --- nat. Dacus;
6,3227: Aurel(io) Primo liberto nat(ione) Dacus;
6, 7407: Dacus insularius;
16903: dis manibus Diuppaneus qui Euprepes Sterissae f. Dacus;
8, 8562 from Mauretanien: FortuÂnatus qui et Dacus;
10, 4030 from Capua: C. Auli, C. C. l., Daci o. h. s. s.;
11, 28 from Ravenna: Q. Decimus Dacus;
11, 6695105 from Regium: Cl(audius) Dac(us);
3, 14644 from Dalmatien: Amabilis secutor nat(ione) Dacus pug(narum);
14, 3564 from Tibur: P. Aquillius, P. l., Dacus;
16, Dipl. 13 (anno 71) from DÄlgodÄlci, Bez. Lomiu 17: Tutio Buti f., Dacus.
RLO 16, 1926, 44 from Carnuntum: PereÂgrinus Q. Asini ser. sutor caligarius natione Dacus.
CIL 6, 3236: d. m. Aurelius Victorinus eques sing. d. n. --- natione Daqus domum coloni (sic) Zermiegete (sic).
Cf. further
CIL
6, 2605: Aur. Victo[r]ino mil. coh. VI pr. natione Dacisca, regione
SerÂdic(e)n(se);
Script. hist. Aug. 26, 38, 4: septem milibus Daciscorum interremptis;
N. D. or. 40, 21: milites Dacisci.
CIL
3, 7573 from vallum Traiani in Dobrudža: Pia et Daciscus fratres;
5, 1047 from Aquileia: d. m. M. Secundi Genialis domo Cl. Agrip. negotiat. Dacisco patr. optimo;
5, 6244 from Mediolanum: Dacisqus Iustus;
6, 3320: [natione D]aciscu[s].
Dacia 7 - 8, 1937 - 1940, 353 from Drobeta: Iul(ius) Daciscus. -
3.
Dio 68, 14: κα`ι ο´ÏÏÏÏ Â´Î® Dακία ´ΡÏμαίÏν ´Ï
ÏÎ®ÎºÎ¿Î¿Ï `εγÎνεÏο.
Ptol. 3, 5, 6: ´ο μ`εν ΤÏÏÎ±Ï ÏοÏαμÏÏ Î±`Ï
Ï`Î¿Ï Â´Î¿Ïίζει Ï`α μÎÏη Ïη~Ï DÎ±ÎºÎ¯Î±Ï ÎºÎ±`ι Ïη~Ï Î£Î±ÏμαÏίαÏ.
Steph. Byz. 216, 22: Dακία, ÏÏÏα ÏληÏίον BοÏÏ
ÏθÎνοÏ
Ï.
IGRP 4, 47 from Lesbos: Î .
`AÎ¯Î»Î¹Î¿Ï `AÏÏιαν`Î¿Ï `AλÎξανδÏοÏ, βοÏ
λεÏ
[Ï`ηÏ] DÎ±ÎºÎ¯Î±Ï ÎºÎ¿Î»ÏÎ½ÎµÎ¯Î±Ï ÎεÏμιζεγ[ε]θοÏ
ÂÏηÏ.
Hierocl. 654, 2: εÏαÏÏία DÎ±ÎºÎ¯Î±Ï Î¼ÎµÏογείοÏ
.
Constant. Porphyrog. de them. (Bonn.) 56, 5:
εÏαÏÏία DÎ±ÎºÎ¯Î±Ï Î¼ÎµÏογαίοÏ
.
Amm. Marc. 22, Î, 3: inter terminos Daciae.
CIL
16, Dipl. 68 (anno 120) from Porolissum: [in Da]cia supe[riore];
16, Dipl. 75 (anno 129) from Little Walachia, 7: in Dacia i<n>feriore.
CIL
3, 980 from Alba Iulia: tabularius provinc(iae) [Da]ciae Apulensis;
3, 1153 from Apulum: L. Aemil. Car[u]s leg. Au[g]. pr. pr. III Daciarum;
3, 6054 from Ancyra: proc(uratori) Daciae Porolisensis;
3, 13704 from Saloniki: pra[e]sidem prov. Daci[ae] Malvensis.
Script. hist. Aug. 26, 3, 1: Aurelianus ortus, ut plures loquuntur Sirmii, ut nonnulli Dacia ripensi.
N. D. or.
1, 55: Dacia ripensis;
1, 77: Dacia mediterranea.
Cf. Dacia as anthroponym in CIL
3, 2967b from Dalmatia: Fermus tribunus et --- Dacia coniuge eius;
5, 3647 from Verona: (dat.) Iuliae Daciae;
6, 28848a: Vibia Dacia mater;
10, 1316 from Nola: (dat.) Noniae Dac(iae).
Kretschmer Einl. 214 is of the opinion that DÄci is related to Dα~οι in the same manner as Graeci to GÏαι~οι. He concludes from that that the change of name perhaps has to do with the national uprising of the people, in which also other tribes as the Daoi may have joined in the nation which now together with these was designated as the Daic.
DοκίδαÏ
α Stadt in the northwestern parts of Dacia, Ptol. 3, 8, 4.
In Dοκι- we find the anthoponym *DοκιÏ. Cf. the Celtic anthropnyms Doci-rex, Docius, Holder AC 1, 1298-1299, and Dοκι on a Edonic-Bisalt. coin, Head HN 200
-δοκοÏ, -docus, -δοκαÏ, -doce, -δοκηÏ, Dοκι-, -δοÏοÏ,
-dochus, -δακοÏ, -θακοÏ, -ÏοκοÏ, -ÏοκηÏ, -ÏÏ
ÏοÏ,
-ÏαγοÏ, -ÏακοÏ, -tacus, -ticus
in
Aμα-δοκοÏ, Ama-docus, Ama-dochus, Aμα-ÏοκοÏ, Aμη-δοκοÏ,
AμμαÂδοκοÏ, Aμμο-δοÏοÏ, Dοκί-δανα, Îαβα-δοκοÏ,
Îαβα-ÏοκοÏ, Îα-δαÏοÏ, Ma~doce, Îα-δοÏοÏ, Ma-docus,
Îε-θαÏοÏ, Îε-ÏαÏοÏ, Îε-ÏοÏοÏ, Îη-δοκηÏ,
Îη-δοκοÏ, Îη-θακοÏ, Îη-ÏαγοÏ, Îη-ÏακοÏ,
Îη-ÏοκοÏ, ÎιÏ-ÏοκοÏ, ΠαÏ-δοκαÏ, ΣαÏα-ÏοκοÏ,
ΣκοÏ-ÏοκηÏ, ΣκÏ
θο-δοκοÏ, ΣÏαÏαÂδοÏοÏ,
ΣÏαÏ-ÏακοÏ, Spar-tacus, Spar-ticus, ΣÏαÏ-ÏοκοÏ,
ΣÏαÏ-ÏÏ
ÏοÏ, ΣÏοÏ-δοκοÏ.
Cf. the Greek PN on -δοÏοÏ, -δοÏÎ¿Ï in Bechtel PN 139 and the Celtic anthroponym Docilus, Docius, Doci-rex etc in Holder AC 1, 1298-1299. From the PIE root dek`-, dok`- with depalatalization of the gutturals, which we encounter also in Dοκίμαιον, city in PhryÂgia, Ptol. 5, 2, 24 and in their eponymous hero DÏκιμοÏ, Head HN 672.'
Proposal:
(I'm not decided on whether I'll use a vowel plus Å (-VÅ-) or a nasalized vowel (-VN-) in the recontructions)
*daÅ-/*daN- > *daw-
*daÅ-/*daN- > *daNk- > *dak-
*daÅ-/*daN- + -sk- > dansk
(*daÅ-isk´- > *duÅIsk´- > Pol. duÅsk-)
(*daÅ-yan-> *daNk-yan- > *daÄan-)
*sweÅ-/*sweN- > *swew-
*sweÅ-/*sweN- > *sweNk- > *swek- (Sueci)
*sweÅ-/*sweN- + -sk- > *svensk
*graÅ-/*graN- > *graw- > *grai, grae
*graÅ-/*graN- > *graÅk- > *graek-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian#Substratum_of_Proto-Romanian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_language#.28Old.29_Albanian
(the Old Albanian referred to here would be Dacian; note that the diagnostic suffixed definite article is also a feature of of North Germanic minus Vestjysk and would be just as indicative of a Dacian substrate, cf the thread starting in
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/9815
)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danes_(Germanic_tribe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_tongue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane%C5%9F (??)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suevi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes_(Germanic_tribe)
(note all the *sven- side forms)
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=swain&searchmode=none
(cf. Kretschmer above)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks#Names (see Greeks)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crone (?)
The choices of Dak- Graek- over Dai-, Grae- as reflects of *daÅ-, *graÅ- seem to have taken place at about the same time.
which BTW vindicates (I think) my derivation of crassus, grossus etc
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66586
as a participle *gr-áÅ- "grown old, ripe, juicy". What verbs *d-áÅ-,
*sw-éŠcould be participles of is difficult to know. Words so short are suspect of being back formations from compounds, in casu
1) from the *-daÅ occurring in the Dacian towns in -dava (the town name then being the name of its people)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dacian_cities#Dacian
and in the various -danes mentioned in Beowulf (Spear-danes, East-danes, West-danes etc),
http://www.heorot.dk/beowulf-rede-notes.html
*-daÅ being ultimately cognate to Celtic dun-, Germanic *tun-?),
2) and from the *-sweÅ (swain) occuring in eg boatswain (used much more in eg. Danish, cf. eg. 'svend' "master craftsman"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_craftsman
corresponding to the German term 'Geselle'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_craftsman#Germany
used in compounds: slagtersvend, murersvend, bagersvend etc
).
All this adds up to Dacians (Free Dacians?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Dacians
making up part of either the 10 BCE or 250 CE (Brøndsted, as emended by me) invasion of Denmark, see quote here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66612
The main difference between Thracians and Dacians would be that the former slave-traded the latter. If so, the Burebista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burebista
regime, made possible by the discovery of gold(?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_bracelets
or by reserving gold for the king's use alone(?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia#Occupations
would have been an economic disaster to Thracian slave-traders.
Strabo 6.3.1
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/6c*.html
'Now that I have traversed the regions of Old Italy as far as Metapontium, I must speak of those that border on them. And Iapygia borders on them. The Greeks call it Messapia, also, but the natives, dividing it into two parts, call one part (that about the Iapygian Cape) the country of the Salentini, and the other the country of the Calabri. Above these latter, on the north, are the Peucetii and also those people who in the Greek language are called Daunii, but the natives give the name Apulia to the whole country that comes after that of the Calabri, though some of them, particularly the Peucetii, are called Poedicli also. Messapia forms a sort of peninsula, since it is enclosed by the isthmus that extends from Brentesium as far as Taras, three hundred and ten stadia.'
If
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Albanian#.28Old.29_Albanian
is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daco-Thracian
then the Daunii (Dauoi?) may have spoken Old
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arb%C3%ABresh%C3%AB
Cf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvanites
esp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvanites#cite_note-12
'Travellers in the 19th century were unanimous in identifying Plaka as a heavily "Albanian" quarter of Athens.
John Cam Hobhouse, writing in 1810, quoted in
John Freely, Strolling through Athens, p. 247:
"The number of houses in Athens is supposed to be between twelve and thirteen hundred; of which about four hundred are inhabited by the Turks, the remainder by the Greeks and Albanians, the latter of whom occupy above three hundred houses."
Eyre Evans Crowe, The Greek and the Turk; or, Powers and prospects in the Levant, 1853:
"The cultivators of the plain live at the foot of the Acropolis, occupying what is called the Albanian quarter..." (p. 99);
Edmond About, Greece and the Greeks of the Present Day, Edinburgh, 1855 (translation of La Grèce contemporaine, 1854):
"Athens, twenty-five years ago, was only an Albanian village. The Albanians formed, and still form, almost the whole of the population of Attica; and within three leagues of the capital, villages are to be found where Greek is hardly understood."
(p. 32);
"The Albanians form about one-fourth of the population of the country; they are in majority in Attica, in Arcadia, and in Hydra...."
(p. 50);
"The Turkish [sic] village which formerly clustered round the base of the Acropolis has not disappeared: it forms a whole quarter of the town.... An immense majority of the population of this quarter is composed of Albanians." (p. 160)'
Another interpretation of this story is that these 'Albanians' were the descendants of slaves of the Greek (cf. the name 'Daus' above).
Torsten