Re: Tudrus EOD

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "t0lgsoo1" <guestuser.0x9357@...> wrote:

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> >Those scientists who they deal with the stuff in a no-nonsense,
> >scientific, rigurous way are scientists of your imagination.
> >The actual authors of the books you quote are people like
> >you and me, and they arrive at their results in the same way.
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> >I don't understand that sentence.
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> Sheesh, if that one would the single one!...

It was, I understood the rest of them.

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> >And it doesn't matter to me whether it matters to you.
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> >Your lack of background knowledge can hardly be my problem.
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> Then don't worry, be happy 'n' get outa sight.
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> Why the heck do you give any reply to my post at all?
> Esp. since I suggested we'd better stop there!

Well, you put me in a bit of a quandary there. Here are some quotes:

> Prove that Bastarnians stayed there, developed their Germanic
> language in the exact way as their "cousins" did in the southern
> "Reich",

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> Demonstrate the alternative theory, and I'll listen, and perhaps
> I'll enthusiastically accept it.

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> Okay, then go ahead, carry on. I'm eager to see how you demonstrate
> "a dozen" Bastarnae survivors in Poland managed ...

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> But show me the direct link in an absence of the vast contribution
> by Germany's Oberdeutsch talkers and writers.

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> [Don't reply to this post. By now I know your alternative
> "proposal", you know why I am sceptical. Do put on display substance
> to it whenever you wish ...]

Which taken together means I shouldn't reply to your post?

> But now you go on, and you "enhance" your samples of "exquisite
> manners" in it! >:(

Excuse me? Perhaps we should see the above in context:

> > I don't care of the Bastarnians living in Protopoland, nor do I
> > care that they might have been a "nobility" or "royal" class
> > obeyed by various other Germanic tribes.

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> > I again stress that it doesn't matter to me (in this discussion)
> > whether the "upper crust" of the "Elbgermanen" were Bastarnae
> > "Herzog" clans (Geschlechter) or not.

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> And it doesn't matter to me whether it matters to you.

> > Whenever I insist on getting details on how on earth could that
> > be possible, your reply is either "Ariovist moved to Rottweil or
> > Freiburg" or "Greek&Arabic&Slavic-mumbling pedlars paid visits
> > along the autobahn now and then.
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> Your lack of background knowledge can hardly be my problem.


> What kinda discussion do you expect me to resume with you
> as long as you can't keep it in an appropriate way,

And another one:

> ... you self-opinionated clueless "linguist"!

Follow your shining example, you mean?

> if you can't respect the partner,

Erh?

> and as long as your conceitedness hinders you request more input
> wherever/whenever your acumen leaves you in the lurch?

It did? When?

> Moreover, you despise the history of my own heritage within the
> "Ostsiedlung".

My own heritage is of farmers turned school masters. I have no problem with that. I am sorry if I have sown doubts in your mind as to the heritage which entitles you to be snotty to me.

> >Thank you. From the Bedeutungsgruppen I see that Geschlecht
> >nowhere has the meaning Adelssgeschlecht
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> Because your command of German leaves to be desired.

Actually I was using my command of reading. I don't think a better command of German would have induced me to claim that the list includes senses which aren't there.

> You don't have to be a linguist to grasp the semantics of
> "Generation, Gesellschaft, Kategorie, Klasse, Linie, Rasse,
> Stamm, Familienband, Sippe, __Dynastie__, Genus". But speaking
> Pidgin-German won't help!

I didn't try that, I must admit.

> (On top of that you dare teach me German.)

Actually, I was trying to teach you to stick to the texts you quote.

> No training of a historian is necessary either in order
> to have heard/read in school or literature of the notion
> "de genere", in the context of social strata deemed as
> "noble", i.e. having a superior social status to other
> social or ethnic strata in a populace. Nor to be in the
> lineage of a "Vogt", "Schultheiss" or, for that matter,
> of a knight or baronet.

In order for that to be relevant, you should document a German expression 'von Geschlecht' in the same sense. Can you do that?

> >The part of my scenario which involves Bastarnae takes place in
> >the last two centuries BCE.
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> Oh, and that's verrry relevant, hiiighly relevant
> to Yiddish, you self-opinionated clueless "linguist"!

Yes, ich bastle meine eigenen Meinungen.

> The Yiddishkeit wouldn't have popped up outa its egg
> without the help of those primitive vagrants in the last
> two c. before Yehoshua's birth!

Don't say that. Perhaps a Bastarnian is reading it.

> What can I say? I could
> throw whole lotta morphems at you, but I respect
> Matthew 5:3 fellas for obvious reasons.

Oh thank you, George! I was always worried what St Peter would think of me, you know how it is with those job interviews! But does that mean I won't enjoy your company after I'm dead?

> EOD

Torsten