Re: Tudrus

From: Torsten
Message: 67048
Date: 2011-01-07

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "t0lgsoo1" <guestuser9357@...> wrote:
>
> >I've yet to see any evidence that <Täuberich> and
> ><Gänserich> contain a diminutive suffix. Or for that matter
> >that they're relevant at all, since both are late creations.
> >
> >Brian
>
> Only in the sense "Männchen" (Männeken) of the OHG trahho
> (<*drako) in forming OHG an(t)trahho > NHG Enterich.

Do you have documentation (Beleg) for your 'OHG trahho' or are you assuming it existed? And for the extra -t- of antrahho?


> (BTW, in Bavarian, die Ente = de Ant'n.)

To add a little complication, here's another Swedish word for "duck":
http://runeberg.org/svetym/0100.html
http://runeberg.org/svetym/0101.html
'anka, 1587, snarast med Rydqvist,
A. Kock o. Tamm lån från ett icke uppvisat
lty. *antke = lty. a:nk, antje, dimin. till lty. ant (se and).'

From *antika- ? It's grammatically a feminine in -a.

It umlauts in ON: o,nd/endr (still in Danish: and/ænder). Assuming paradigm regularization we could get both Ant'(?)/Anten and Ente/Enten. I sometimes wonder if paradigm regularization is responsible for similar double forms, eg Da. tå, tæer, Engl. toe, toes, German Zehe, Zehen (Dutch teen, tenen).


Torsten