Re: 'dyeus' chronology

From: shivkhokra
Message: 66692
Date: 2010-10-05

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
>
> Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
>> shivkhokra wrote:
>
>> I am saying that if dyaus is mentioned for the first time on the planet earth
>> in 2000 BC in Rg Veda and then 800 years later in 1200 B.C he is mentioned
>> again as Zeus with similar functions on Linear B tablets in Crete,
>> many thousand miles away, why is it necessary to assume that Greeks
>> and Rg Vedic people had a common ancestor? Does'nt Occam's razor apply?
>
> We already need a common (linguistic) ancestor for Greek and Sanskrit. Occam's
> razor says we shouldn't multiply entities *without reason*.

Can you please explain what you mean?

>
> We do have an alternative connection - Mitanni Aryans.

But were'nt Mitanni aryans from India? The names of Gods that appear in RV 10.125.1 are present in the Mitanni treaty of 1380 BCE in the exact same order:

ahám mitraáváruNobhaá bibharmy ahám indraagnií ahám ashvínobhaá

The reason that these Gods are mentioned in the treaty is not
a random choice on the part of the scribe. Instead it
is because one of the functions assigned to these gods
by RgVeda deals with treaties as in RV 1.136.3 where
"Mitra and Varuna cause people to make mutual agreements".

Reason Indra is mentioned in the treaty becomes clear if one
reads RV 10.89.9: "Sharpen your weapon, as furious death,
Indra, against those who do not recognize the sacredness of
contracts/treaties, who deceive Mitra, Arya and Varuna".

Reason for mentioning Nasatya becomes clear from
RV 8.35.12 where it is said: "You two Asvins(Nasatyas) slay
the enemy and keep in agreement those who are connected by a contract/treaty....". In RV 1.120.8, the Asvins are also invoked to guard against the breach of a treaty. Yaska in Nirukta 6.13 shows that they were regarded as protectors of the truth: "they are (na-asatya) i.e they are true and not false".

Without Rig Ved and Yaska we cannot understand why these Gods of India would be used on the treaties by the Mitanni as these Indian Gods were not gods in Iran or any other country of the world.

Shivraj