Res: Res: Res: [tied] Re: 'dyeus'

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 66634
Date: 2010-09-21

What are the solar trais in Aphrodite and Dione? Aphrodite has, in fact, many common traits to PIE Dawn-goddess. I think there's some fading solar traits, of Semitic origin (cf. Ugaritic Shapash, torch-bearing messenger of gods) in Hekate, Iris and Hestia.
What we know about Dione is so poor that it's hard to speculate much more...

From Theoi site:

DIO′NE (Diônê), a female Titan, a daughter of Oceanus and Tethys (Hesiod. Theog. 353), and, according to others, of Uranus and Ge, or of Aether and Ge. (Hygin. Fab. Praef.; Apollod. i. 1. § 3.) She was beloved by Zeus, by whom she became the mother of Aphrodite. (Apollod. i. 3. sec; i.; Hom. Il. v. 370, &c.) When Aphrodite was wounded by Diomedes, Dione received her daughter in Olympus, and pronounced the threat respecting the punishment of Diomedes. (Hom. Il. v. 405.) Dione was present, with other divinities, at the birth of Apollo and Artemis in Delos. (Hom. Hymn. in Del. 93.) At the foot of Lepreon, on the western coast of Peloponnesus, there was a grove sacred to her (Strab. viii. p. 346), and in other places she was worshipped in the temples of Zeus. (Strab. vii. p. 329.) In some traditions she is called the mother of Dionysus. (Schol. ad Pind. Pyth. iii. 177; Hesych. s. v. Bakchou Diônês). There are three more mythical personages of this name. (Apollod. i. 2. § 7; Hygin. Fab. 83; Pherecyd. p. 115, ed. Sturz.)

Source: Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology.


There are some similarities between Dione, Aphrodite's mother, and the oceanid Eurynome, Kharites' mother, and even Themis, Hours' mother;

It's interesting that in Hesiodic Theogony many of the wives of Zeus begot sets of children that looked like simple "avatars" (most of them triplets) of their own mothers: Demeter-Persephone, Eurynome-Kharites, Themis-Horai, Hera-Hebe/Illithyia, Metis/Athena, Mnemosyne/Mousai.

JS Lopes


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Interesting yes. To me it's as plain as day but no doubt controversy will rage for decades. Dione is Aphrodite's mother because they are both archaic sun goddesses - mother to daughter - rapidly fading from view as solar deities by Homeric times and demoted here as you say to an Oceanid subsequently. Nothing incongruous here btw, solar deities have a habit of setting into the western waves, where available.

R

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
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