Re: 'dyeus'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "hwhatting" <hwhatting@...> wrote:

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> No, I was talking about two different things here:
> (1) In the Babylonian system, Marduk, the chief god,was identified with the 5th planet...

> (2) At the point when that identification happened, the theonym Jupiter / Zeus had already become etymologically opaque ...

> Chronology:
> 1) PIE times - dye:us pH2te:r - god of the bright sky
> 2) Ancient Greek - god [dyeus] developed into Zeus..
> 3) Greeks take over the system of identifying gods with planets from the orient. They substitute ...(Zeus) for the Babylonian chief god (Marduk) as being identified with the 5th planet.
> 4) Romans ... Jupiter for Zeus.

Thanks Hans-Werner,

Marduk leads nowhere accepted.

With regard to PIE 'dyeus pater' what has happened to 'dyeus mater' please? Juno does not appear to be the 'Earth Mother'. The only gender correct form I have here for a dyeus counterpart is 'Dione' [Juno], I don't know what her reconstructed PIE would be. For that we need the neutral adjective 'bright', I haven't seen that yet.

For Dione also read Diana but the moon attribution is fraught (below)

Looks to me as if Juno's root is exactly the same as 'dyeus' - her name 'Lucina' makes that abundantly clear I think.

Best regards,

Ric