Res: [tied] Re: Latin Honor < ?

From: dgkilday57
Message: 65978
Date: 2010-03-16

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> W dniu 2010-03-13 19:09, dgkilday57 pisze:
>
> > If memory serves, the Gaulish word is <neme:ton>, since it (or a
> > compound) is known from a text in the Greek alphabet. The suffix is thus
> > identical to the Latin collective <-e:tum>, and should not be used for
> > speculation of this sort.
>
> You mean this inscription, I presume:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yav4b9h
>
> But since it also uses e:ta twice in the name of Belisama, it would seem
> that the writer was not very good at recording phonological vowel length
> in Gaulish. Anyway, reflexes of *nemeto- 'venerated thing/person' occur
> in OIr and in British personal names and toponyms.
>
> > Since Celtic replaced *nebH- with *nem- (by
> > tabuistic substitution?), it is not clear which root belongs to
> > <neme:ton> anyway.
>
> In either case it's related to a PIE es-stem.

All right, I stand corrected. Celtic *nemeto- it is. Nevertheless I see no particular advantage to presuming that *-esto- originated by conflation ("dialectal" or otherwise) of regular *-eto- with the non-final stem-form *-es-; perhaps I missed something earlier in the thread.

DGK