--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Torsten <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> GK: One question comes to mind. I forget whether the term for
> "foreigner" based on the Celtic Volcae appears anywhere in this
> intermediate area.
There's an interesting answer to that.
Villigst, on the Ruhr across from Schwerte, old Vilgeste Viliste,
As I noted before (after various Polish linguists), there is an alternation *w-/*b-, from a rule in 'Northern Venetic' *w- -> *b-, in the roots *wolg and *bolg-
http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ cybalist/ message/64012
http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ cybalist/ message/60861
To make a long tale short, the NWBlock people might have called the Volcae either *Vilg-,
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Schwerte
(Villigst)
or, where Veneti had taken over, *Bill- (Bilisti near Paderborn)
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Paderborn
This answers Meid's critique of Kuhn's assumed alternating inlaut variants in Bilisti and Villigst
****GK: According to this, the Volcae were southern neighbours both to the Jastorfers and to the NWB people. The Jastorfer designation became the Germanic term for "foreigner". It seems strange to suppose that this term applied to the NWBers. Originally this wouldn't make sense since the NWB were obviously not Volcae. I wonder if there is any way of knowing what the Jastorfers called them. Or what the NWB called the Jastorfers. Also: might we assume that by the time "Volcae" became the generic Germanic term for "foreigner" the integration of Jastorfer and NWB was an accomplished fact. Caesar in DBG 6 possibly reflects this, since for him the Volcae of Germany are still Volcae, while the erstwhile NWB are just as "Germani" as their eastern neighbours. This could have occurred in the generation prior to 53 BCE, with the Germanic Volcae integrated in the subsequent generation(s); certainly by the time of Tacitus the process was long ended.****