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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@> wrote:
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> > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Torsten <tgpedersen@ ...> wrote:
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> > > > The presence of Yazygi in Illyricum is noted and assumable
> > > > from statements by Eusebius and Lucanus.
> > > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/65077
> > > >
> > > > GK: On second thought, I may have made an incorrect
> > > > assumption here about Sarmatian intervention in this war. I
> > > > don't know Eusebius' text, and Harmatta does not reference
> > > > it. Perhaps the Sarmatians were not part of the Pannonian
> > > > army after all and their "subjugation" by Tiberius a mere
> > > > p.r. note by some Roman historian.
> > >
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> Here's the locus in the second part of Eusebius' Chronicon:
> 7 CE: 'Tiberius Caesar drives back the Dalmatians and Sarmatians
> into Roman authority.'
> http://rbedrosian.com/jerome_chronicle_03_part2.htm
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At the same time, Sarmatians were present in Moesia, according to Cassius Dio, Roman History, 55.29-30:
'29 The Dalmatians, chafing under the levies of tribute, had hitherto kept quiet, though unwillingly. But when Tiberius made his second campaign against the Germans, and Valerius Messallinus, the governor of Dalmatia and Pannonia at the time, was sent out with him, taking most of his army along,
2 the Dalmatians, too, were ordered to send a contingent; and on coming together for this purpose and beholding the strength of their warriors, they no longer delayed, but, under the vehement urging of one Bato, a Desidiatian, at first a few revolted and defeated the Romans who came against them, and then the rest also rebelled in consequence of this success.
3 Next the Breucians, a Pannonian tribe, put another Bato at their head and marched against Sirmium and the Romans in that town. They did not capture the place, however, for Caecina Severus, the governor of the neighbouring province of Moesia, marched rapidly against them, when he heard of their uprising, and joining battle with them near the river Dravus, vanquished them; but hoping in some way to renew the struggle soon, since many of the Romans also had fallen, they turned their attention to summoning their allies and were getting together as many as they could.
4 Meanwhile the Dalmatian Bato marched upon Salonae, where he was badly wounded by a stone missile and so accomplished nothing himself; but he sent out some others, who wrought havoc along the whole sea-coast as far as Apollonia, and at that point, in spite of having been first defeated, won a battle in turn against the Romans who engaged them.
30 Now when Tiberius learned of this, fearing that they might invade Italy, he returned from Germany, sending Messallinus ahead and following himself with most of his army.
2 But Bato learned of their approach, and although not yet well, went to meet Messallinus; and though he proved stronger than Messallinus in open conflict, he was afterward defeated by an ambuscade. Thereupon he went to Bato, the Breucian, and making common cause with him in the war, occupied a mountain named Alma.
3 Here they were defeated by Rhoemetalces, the Thracian, who had been sent ahead against them by Severus, but resisted Severus himself vigorously.
4 Later, when Severus withdrew to Moesia, because the Dacians and Sarmatians were ravaging it, and Tiberius and Messallinus were tarrying in Siscia, the Dalmatians overran the territory of their allies and caused many more to revolt.
5 And although Tiberius approached them, they would engage in no pitched battle with him, but kept moving from one place to another, causing great devastation; for, owing to their knowledge of the country and the lightness of their equipment, they could easily proceed wherever they pleased. And when winter set in they did much greater damage, for they even invaded Macedonia again.
6 As for these forces, now, Rhoemetalces and his brother Rhascyporis checked them by a battle; and as for the others, they did not come to the defence of their country when it was later ravaged (in the consulship of Caecilius Metellus and Licinius Silanus), but took refuge in the mountain fortresses, from which they made raiding expeditions whenever the chance offered.'
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/thayer/e/roman/texts/cassius_dio/55*.html
The Sarmatians had crossed the Danube already in 16 BCE, according to Cassius Dio, Roman History, 54.20.2-3:
'2. The Pannonians in company with the Norici overran Istria; but the former, upon being discomfited by Silius and his lieutenants, both came to terms again themselves and caused the Norici to be subjected to the same slavery.
3. The uprisings in Dalmatia and in Spain were quelled in a short time. Macedonia was ravaged by the Dentheleti and the Scordisci. In Thrace somewhat earlier Marcus Lollius, while aiding Rhoemetalces, the uncle and guardian of the sons of Cotys, had subjugated the Bessi. Later Lucius Gallus conquered the Sarmatians for the same reason and drove them back across the Ister.'
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/thayer/e/roman/texts/cassius_dio/54*.html
More about the Bellum Pannonicum
http://tinyurl.com/nfh35w
Torsten