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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> Does anyone have a good etymology for these two ethnonyms (Iranian, presumably?)
Torsten,
I too am very Interested in the Iazyges.
E.g
http://www.kroraina.com/sarm/jh/index.html
This has been a great help for me.
Also the guide book from the Hungarian national museum is a very good read regarding the archaeology in Hungary.
I don't have it in my hand right now but E.g regarding the shield boss from Herpalý in your link, they principally say that while it's a vandal prince buried (mainly since the boss is in a "germanic" style I conclude) the other grave goods are sarmatian in style eg the beads found.
They also say that the only corespondances to the boss are from Southern Scandinavia or Denmark in particular.
I guess they're referring to Thorsberg and Illerup and the other bog offerings.
Also <Nationalmuseet>'s Sejrens Triumf has a chapter very much on the subject of sarmatian connections. "Kosmopolitiske aristokrater" Bertil Storgaard.
Regarding the ardaragates and limigantes. I'm imagining that the ardaragantes were the masters and that they consisted of the Roxolani and that the limigantes were the serfs and that they consisted mainly of the old Iazyges.
I'm then thinking that the Auxiliaries given to the romans 175 were mostly of this Iazyges "proper" group and that they also went to the limes in Germania Inferior apart from Britain.
In this case I'm playing with the thought that the romans called them from this i e Hadrianus wall and limes. Hence limi in limigantes.
But what gantes comes from then I'm not so sure. <gens> maybe?
Anyway, what if these auxiliaries in Britain and hypothetically in Germania declared themselves independent? Perhaps they began to move westwards to southern Norway and northern Germany respectively and attacked the people who subsequently layed down the offerings in Thorsberg Illerup and also the other bogs.
Best wishes
Anders
> http://impearls.blogspot.com/2003_12_28_impearls_archive.html
> It seems Wolfram has the information from Ammianus Marcellinus.
> http://tinyurl.com/nscg6s
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> Torsten
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