Re: That old Ariovistus scenario.

--- On Fri, 6/26/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>

> GK: I think you're the only one here in permanent conflict with

> communis opinio.

Yes, most other people feel uncomfortable having opinions which differ from those of their contemporaries. But a few daring individuals gaze boldly over the horizons of the centuries.

> Again, who else believes that Germanic spread westwards from

> Przeworsk with Ariovistus?

As I said, that is a discovery I made, and I am rather proud of it.

> AFAIK communis opinio remains that Germanic is to be primarily

> associated with Jastorf in the BCE period, and that other

> Continental cultures become Germanic to the extent that Jastorf

> moves eastward from the 4th c. BCE.****

I don't disagree with that. I think Proto-Proto. ..Germanic came that way (perhaps) and Proto-Germanic was spoken in Przeworsk, in the sense that all the Germanic languages we know some contens of were descended from that.

****GK: That being the case, and since I'm not a linguist, I'll leave it to others to decide whether your "discovery" that proper Germanic only begins with Ariovistus is science or kookery in linguistic terms. Though frankly, since we have no Przeworsk texts of any kind (original or cited) I don't understand how your "discovery" is anything more than a totally arbitrary assumption. Nor do I see how it relates to your Snorrist views.*****




Let me see if you understand this one: Everywhere the *xarud- name

appears you find high percentages of haplotype I (Oppenheimer' s

'Ivan').

****GK: The Wikipedia "Croats" article suggests the haplotype I convergence
between Croats and Scandinavians is due to events which happened 30,000 years ago, not in the time of Ariovistus.****