From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 64194
Date: 2009-06-15
>Also to be irritated when I'm right and you are wrong (and I make a direct reference here, only to the first topic, the existence of the CREH/CERH roots)...Is not at all ok.
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
> >
> > On 2009-06-13 17:16, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> >
> > > THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE:
> > > - BECAUSE THEY WERE RESHAPED TO -a:re:
> > > ara:re 'for sure' I would say..
> > > cala:re 'for sure' too (we have Umbrian karetu)
> > > etc...
> > >
> > > So we have many RESHAPINGS HERE....
> >
> > This is just another red herring. We are not discussing the origin of
> > the first conjugation but the form of <moneo:/mone:re>. You haven't
> > shown even one single case in which a causative/iterative in *-h2- +
> > -eje/o- ends up in the second conjugation in Latin. Shall I multiply
> > counterexamples? We have *woth2-aje/o- > OLat. voto: > CLat.
> > veto:/vetui. Of course I realise that you are immune to argumentation
> > and since no-one else seems to be interested in this thread, I rest my
> > case here. EOT for the second and last time.
> > Piotr
>
>
> 1. Piotr, to make me 'immune to the argumentation' after all my postings here, and especially when you were COMPLETELY WRONG on the first discussed TOPIC here, is NOT FAIR:
>
> Tee First Discussed Topic was:
> - <<that a menh2- type-II Root is not possible from a mneh2- root>> ==> this was your assertion, isn't it? ('based on Raimo's book' etc..)
>
> I have showed you that this is possible.
>
> SO YOUR WERE WRONG HERE: LET'S BE EXPLICIT ABOUT THIS.
>
> Sorry to tell you: but I didn't see any feedback from you saying: "I was wrong"....why is so difficult to recognize this?
>
>
>
> 2. Now, you have switched, RECENTLY, to a second argumentation saying that "a causative/iterative in *-h2- + -eje/o- always ends up in the first conjugation in Latin"
>
> a) The First Question here was/is how do you Know FOR SURE that :
>
> tona:re
> sona:re
> vota:re
> doma:re
>
> are causative-iterative -eye- formations?
>
> Because otherwise you have a circular argumentation, here.
>
> Marius