[SPAM] [SPAM] [tied] Re: Latin /a/ after labials, IE *mori

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2009-06-13 01:37, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Secondly if swenh- has -h2- in the root is difficult to explain why OIr
> > seinn has an e/o inflection
>
> A late thematicisation. As you evidently have checked it up in LIV, you
> must have seen Zehnder's comment. *swenh2- was an original root present.

A late thematicisation SUPPOSES that the original a- was reshaped in e- ==> so here is WELL POSSIBLE isn't it? But for monere is not possible ...:) What LOGIC IS THIS --> to apply on one side the argument and the same argument not to apply on another.

> > So is better to consider sona:re as a denominative derived from sonus.
>
> I'm not sure it's better. It doesn't explain the Lat. perfect. Given all
> the evidence that we have, <sono:> and <tono:> are most likely old
> iteratives patly assimilated to the first conjugation _precisely_
> because ot their root-final *h2, colouring the suffix. Another
> well-known example is <domo:> 'tame' (*demh2-). They _all_ have exact
> counterparts in Sanskrit (<svanáyati, stanáyati, damáyati>; note the
> short vowel of the root, unlike <ma:náyati>). Just a coincidence? ;-

-eye- formations in Sanskrit are regulars. Almost each verb has such o formation. This means nothing.

1. Do you Know that denominatives in Latin are constructed (also) via -a:re suffix? Do you need examples?

3. Do we have here tonus and sonus as the basic nouns, too?

So the Final Question for You:

Why not DENOMINATIVES?

Still the DENOMINATIVE IS A VALID OPTION your h2-eye- derivation is UNSURE.

> Why the oldest? Why not a false third-conjugation form based on the
> shared type of perfect?
>
> Piotr

For sure we don't know. But we have some hints:
1. They are Oldest based on their older attestations
2. they are Oldest on the reason that they were Completely replaced BY tona:re and sona:re

Finally, why NOT to put together : sonere, tonere and monere as -eye verbs?

And to keep sona:re and tona:re as denominatives ?

Marius

P.S. also 'a false third-conjugation form based on the
shared type of perfect' sounds an allambicated one.
Marius