Re: Semele - k^em- 'the hornless'

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 63920
Date: 2009-05-22

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Alexandru Moeller <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> I have pretty doubghts to consider dialectal differences such big
> differences : Zalmoxis-?ebeleizis... which is the reason you think these
> are one and the same name? To me it appears to be two difterent name,
> too much of vocalic differences here, letting by side the rest..
>
>
> Alex


I have written in the past too:

I started from Zamolxis and Gebelezis and I splitted in:
a) a.1) Zamo- a.2) Gebe-
b) b.1) -lxis b.2) -le(i)zis

From here the similarities started to appear in much an obvious way


For a) DZem- seems to be the ancien fonetic Common Form

and I have applied
e/accented > ya or ye (Diegis, Dielleina, Skyare)
dzy > g^y or dzy
m > mB > m or b (Museous~Buzau, Tibisia~Timis)

Where :
a.1) DZem- > [ e/accented > ya] > *DZyam (attested Zam-)

a.2) DZem- > [ e/accented > ye] > DZjemb > G^emb- (attested Geb- )

This first the root seems to be related to
PIE dHg^Hem- 'earth' > DZem-


For b) b.1) -lxis b.2) -le(i)zis *ledz-sk-is seems to be the common form

a.1) *-ledz-sk-is > -ldzksis > -lxis

a.1) *le(i)dz-sk-is > -le(i)dzis > -le(i)dzis

This second root seems to be related to
PIE leig^- 'to bind, to tie' > *leg^H-sk-i-s


So Probably the real pronunciations was closer too:

DZyamw& -ldzksis
DZyemBwe-ledzksis ~ G^ebwe-ledzksis


===> 'The Tied-one in the earth' ' "The Bind-one in the earth'

In Romanian the meaning would be 'Cel legat in t,&r^an&'

Marius