From: tgpedersen
Message: 63342
Date: 2009-02-21
>between preponderantly similar IE and FU mtDNA were:
>
>
> Torsten wrote that the Julku-Wiik statement about differences
>hypothetical about these findings:
> > hypothetical, and further, the thing you want it to mean is the
> > opposite of the conclusion they reached in their paper.
> >
> > GK: Do they say where this difference might come from?
>
> Erh, I think they want to try to find them first before they
> speculate where they come from.
>
> ****GK: From your original cited material. Explain to me what is
> >Searching for '9-bp' in the article, this is the first hit. So no, the
> > It is clear that the Finno-Ugrians share their maternal lineages
> > with other Caucasoids and not with Mongoloids, at least in any
> > larger extent. Can we find, inside this Pan-European homogeneity
> > of mtDNA haplogroups, certain Finno-Ugric variants? We think that
> > it is possible. Not necessarily Finno-Ugric, but certainly
> > regional. As an attempt, we analysed recently ~2100 Caucasians,
> > including a large Estonian sample, for the 9-bp deletion in the
> > intergenic COII/ tRNALys region. We ended up with 20 deletion
> > mutants and seven triplications of this 9-bp motif. One of the
> > varieties of the deletion mutants was a family of haplotypes at
> > the background of the European-specific RFLP haplogroup T with a
> > characteristic two-basepair upstream shift in the place of the
> > excision of the 9-bp motif. Since this specific variety of
> > deletion mutation found in Estonians is shared by some of our
> > neighbours, not necessarily Finno-Ugric speakers only, it can
> > serve as a regional marker. The other deletion variety at the
> > background of haplogroup H was further characterised by two point
> > mutations in the flanking sequences. What we suggest here is that
> > this kind of additional mutations and specifically their
> > varieties are unique enough to trace detailes of maternal
> > inheritance at the inter-European level.
> *****