Re: from K. Julku, K. Wiik: The Roots and Peoples and Languages of N

From: george knysh
Message: 63340
Date: 2009-02-21

Torsten wrote that the Julku-Wiik statement about differences between preponderantly similar IE and FU mtDNA were:

> hypothetical, and further, the thing you want it to mean is the
> opposite of the conclusion they reached in their paper.
>
> GK: Do they say where this difference might come from?

Erh, I think they want to try to find them first before they speculate
where they come from.

****GK: From your original cited material. Explain to me what is hypothetical about these findings:
>
> It is clear that the Finno-Ugrians share their maternal lineages with
> other Caucasoids and not with Mongoloids, at least in any larger
> extent. Can we find, inside this Pan-European homogeneity of mtDNA
> haplogroups, certain Finno-Ugric variants? We think that it is
> possible. Not necessarily Finno-Ugric, but certainly regional. As an
> attempt, we analysed recently ~2100 Caucasians, including a large
> Estonian sample, for the 9-bp deletion in the intergenic COII/ tRNALys
> region. We ended up with 20 deletion mutants and seven triplications
> of this 9-bp motif. One of the varieties of the deletion mutants was a
> family of haplotypes at the background of the European-specific RFLP
> haplogroup T with a characteristic two-basepair upstream shift in the
> place of the excision of the 9-bp motif. Since this specific variety
> of deletion mutation found in Estonians is shared by some of our
> neighbours, not necessarily Finno-Ugric speakers only, it can serve as
> a regional marker. The other deletion variety at the background of
> haplogroup H was further characterised by two point mutations in the
> flanking sequences. What we suggest here is that this kind of
> additional mutations and specifically their varieties are unique
> enough to trace detailes of maternal inheritance at the inter-European
> level.
 *****