Re: from K. Julku, K. Wiik: The Roots and Peoples and Languages of N

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
>
> I hope George hasn't signed off for good; this might interest him:

****GK: It does indeed, Torsten, my dear fellow. I've been readmitted
after being notified of the timely disappearance of Flower's unhappy
cousin. I do have a query, on the basis of the provided material.
Here are the relevant snippets:****

>
> Richard Villems, Maarja Adojaan, Toomas Kivisild, Ene Metspalu, Jüri
> Parik, Gerli Pielberg, Siiri Rootsi, Kristiina Tambets and Helle-

Viivi

> Tolk:
> Reconstruction of Maternal lineages of Finno-Ugric speaking people

and

> some remarks on their Paternal inheritance

> 'Summary

Maternal

> lineages of Finno-Ugrians are predominantly a subset of these found
> all over Europe. ///.....

>
> Conclusions

Can we find, inside this Pan-European homogeneity of mtDNA

> haplogroups, certain Finno-Ugric variants? We think that it is
> possible. Not necessarily Finno-Ugric, but certainly

regional. ...//...
What we suggest here is that this kind of

> additional mutations and specifically their varieties are unique
> enough to trace detailes of maternal inheritance at the inter-

European

> level.

>[[ Y-chromosomes from somewhere else means invasion, and also that

FU in

> Europe must have a substrate, which is also a substrate for Northern
> European IE. The best guess is Kuhn's ar-/ur- language which I

suspect

> is identical with Schrijver's language of geminates.]]

****GK: Should we not assume distinct substrates (at least two): one
for the area west of the maternal FU variants (unless even more
distinctions may be discovered here) and another for the area
of "certain FY variants"?****