From: Rick McCallister
Message: 63201
Date: 2009-02-19
> From: bmscotttg <BMScott@...>I associate a true retroflex /R/ more with Canadian and Great Lakes English
> Subject: [tied] Re: Franco-Provençal
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:23 PM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> wrote:
>
> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Andrew Jarrette
> <anjarrette@...> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> BTW, many linguists say that the commonest [r] in
> the U.S.A.
> >> is not actually retroflex [r] but what they call
> "bunched /r/",
> >> whose articulation I'm not really sure of but
> I think involves
> >> contracting the tongue into an arch, pointing the
> tip downward,
> >> and articulating the approximant somewhere close
> to the hard
> >> palate. [...]
>
> Yes.
>
> > Your description of "bunched r" definitely
> seems to be on the
> > mark as normal American r
>
> Not for those of us who have the retroflex /r/!
>
> I've not seen much in the way of statistical data, but
> it's clear
> that both are common.
>
> Brian