Re: [tied] Re: Franco-Provençal

From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 63165
Date: 2009-02-19

>
> I totally agree that differentiating between "language" and "dialect"
> is a sociopolitical (or sociolinguistic) question. No matter how the
> differences have arisen, no matter how numerous they are, no matter
> how heavy they are, no matter to what extent the two speeches are
> mutually intelligible, no matter whether they have an immediate common
> ancestor, "language" and "dialect" will be what we define them to be -
> no matter which criteria (uniting/distinguishing) we use.
> ========
> I disagree with that relativist approach.
> A.
> ========

You may disagree with it, but it's being used anyway.

============

Things are not what we define them to be.
Things exist whatever name people give them.

Non existing things with a beautiful name can achieve a phoney existence.
This is what propaganda is about.
Non existing things with an ugly name can achieve a phoney existence.
This is what slander is about.

I disagree with your approach that reality is just about manipulating words
and meanings.
Your approach is a mental cancer.
Freedom and happiness are not what we define them to be.
They are or they are not.
And the same is true with languages and dialects.

A.