Re: Sos-

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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
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Subject: [tied] Re: Sos-



--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Arnaud Fournet" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:
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> >> > And how do you explain this:
> >> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46174
> >
> >> Hm
> >> What am I (or are we) supposed to explain ?
> >>
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> It would certainly be easier if you could explicitly list what
> "that set (those sets) of cognate candidates" is.
>

Alright.
Let's restrict ourselves to
your comparison
> >> >> /kutte/ (back vowel) "penis" < */gVns-/
plus Schrijver's list of the cognates of one of the words of his
'language of geminates'

'
Proto-Saami *ku:ti-
Norwegian Lappish guttâ 'fish roe, fish sausage'
[Finnish kusi, gSg kuden "piss"]

*ku:ti- or a derived *ku:tian-.
Middle Low German ku:t, ku:te,
Modern Low German (dialect of Mecklenburg)
kü(h)t 'entrails, weak parts of the animal body, roe, calf of the leg'
Middle Dutch cute, cuut, kiet, kijte
Modern Icelandic kut-magi 'fish stomach'
kýta 'fish stomach, roe'
Frisian ku:t 'roe, calf

*kunt-:
Middle Low German kunte,
Dutch kont,
English cunt 'buttocks, cunnus'

*kutt-:
Dutch kut 'cunnus',
Bavarian kütze 'part of intestines',
Middle High German kotze 'prostitute',
Middle Low German kutte 'cunnus'
'
And let me add, from Starostin
Basque,
High Navarrese: (Baztan) ema-kuntza "vulva (of cattle)"

Latvian
ku:se "Schamhaare; weibliche Scham",
ku:sa "Schamhaare",
ku:sis "Schamhaare, weibl. Scham"
su:ds "Mist, Dünger, Exkremente, Dreck, Unflatt; Eiter"

Lithuanian:
ku:s^i-s "(Haarbüschel über der) weibl. Scham"
s^ú:da-s "Dreck, Mist, excrementum"

By the standards you use in comparison, these words are related.
How do you explain that?
Torsten

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I'm afraid this is more the way you work,
lumping together words with some look-alike structure
and looking for some obscure substratic connection.

The word "urine" is pan-Uralic
so it certainly is not substratic to Europe.
And it has nothing to do with the following word.

What's the problem with IE 951 *s-keu :
lat. cutis `Haut'; cunnus `pudendum muliebre' (*kut-nos);
hence
Latvian
ku:se "Schamhaare; weibliche Scham",
ku:sa "Schamhaare",
ku:sis "Schamhaare, weibl. Scham"
Lithuanian:
ku:s^i-s "(Haarbüschel über der) weibl. Scham"

Basque, LW
High Navarrese: (Baztan) ema-kuntza "vulva (of cattle)"

Plus with -r- infix :
Irish croth f. `Bauch, uterus, vulva' < *kru:t

German words are possible LWs (from Celtic ?).

Basically a PIE word *kuH(t) with different morphological derivatives :
ku:t, kru:t, ku(:)nt
Apparently there is no **klu:t

Arnaud