Re: Sos-

From: Petr Hrubis
Message: 62658
Date: 2009-01-29

Interesting, Arnaud. Thanks a lot for the information! By the way, do
you have a pdf copy of the paper?



2009/1/29 Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>:
>>> Well, have you read Vovin's article on the possible Yeniseic
>>> membership in the Hunnic alliance? (I don't recall the precise
>>> reference at the moment) If he is right, this may have interesting
>>> implications...
>> Don't leave out Pulleyblank.
>> Note the Scythian connection too.
>> Torsten
> ===========
> I found a sentence about this Jie2 language.
> Apparently, it's the sentence Vovin has tried to analyse but I'm not sure.
> The first point is this caracter Jie2 is reconstructed as *kjot by Baxter
> and *kat by Starostin.
> It's quite dubious that it refers to Ket, Kot seems a better match.
> The second point is : Chinese sources explicitly states this sentence is
> Jie2 language, and this Jie2 people are explicitly listed among the XiongNu.
> So I wonder why there is any controversy about this *kjot/*kat people being
> XiongNu.
> The only obscure point is the possibility of linking this *kjot/*kat people
> with Yeniseian Ket/Kot people.
> The sentence reads :
> The army : xiu4-zhi1 < MC *sjuwH-tsie
> has been deployed : ti4-li4-gang1 < MC *thejH-lejH-kang
> (with the aim)
> the (honorific title) : pu2-gu3 < MC *buwk-kuwk
> to catch : tu1-qu2-dang < MC *tuwk-gju-tangH
> This language clearly has a voiced / voiceless / aspirate contrast.
> which eliminates any Uralo-Altaic language.
> Kott seems to be a reasonable possibility.
> The first word is unknown
> The second could be thax "schicken, to send"
> The third word could be related to *berke-kej/kuk "great prince"
> The last could be to:N-tet "fassen, to seize"
> Note that the voiced, voiceless, aspirate features match.
> It seems to fit fairly well.
> Arnaud