From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 62532
Date: 2009-01-20
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From: "george knysh" <gknysh@...>
>
> Germanic (and Hungarian) are fairly exceptional,
> They are the only clear cases of Western Siberian people succeeding in
> establishing in Europe.
>
> ****GK: The Magyar trek is historically well documented. We have nothing
> comparable for the absurd "theory" of Germanic (and only Germanic) moving
> from West Siberia to Europe. If the notion that Siberian peoples
> contributed words to the Germanic lexicon is not a figment of Fournet's
> uncontrollable imagination, it would further need to be convincingly shown
> that these words did not originate from a substrate population which moved
> in from the east before the IE arrived to absorb it.I shan't be holding my
> breath onthat one (:=)))****
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Dear M. Knysh,
I'm grateful you spend some time reading my mails.
Here is some mental food supporting my theory.
I wonder what are the alternatives to my proposal.
*bakam 'back' < Uralic *muka (Kamas begel)
Eng fang 'tooth' < Uralic *piNe (Vogul K P päNk)
*he:ram 'hair' < Ugric *kaj- (Vogul N Haj)
*handi 'hand' < Uralic *kom(-t) 'hand, handful, palm, five, ten, etc.'
Eng leg 'leg' < Uralic *lolk 'paw' (Ugric *laxel 'paw, foot')
*baina 'bone' < Altaic *pejne 'bone' (Japanese hone)
*blo:tham 'blood' < Altaic *biulu 'blood' (Tungus boldu 'blood pulse')
*ke:ko:n 'cheek' < Altaic *kiuge(m) 'jaw, gum' (Korean kehum)
*pauta 'paw' < Altaic *pukt- (Turcic bu:t 'leg, thigh')
*Tu:m-a 'thumb' < Altaic *cym 'pinch, thimbleful' (Japanese tsum-)
*marko 'horse' < Altaic *mor 'horse'
Eng bird < Altaic *bado 'bird' (Turcic budur 'quail') or Tibetan bya
*reidh 'to ride' < Tibetan rta 'horse'
Eng pig < Tibetan phag 'pig'
Eng rib < Tibetan rtsib
*skip-am < Ugric *qap 'boat' and Yeniseian *qa?p- 'boat'
*Hu:s 'house' < Yeniseian *Hu:s
*dannwo 'fir-tree' < Yeniseian *danje
This also provides a partial answer to M. Elst.
Best
Arnaud.
PS :
I remember this :
As far as I'm concerned, none of these passes the laugh test.
Brian
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/50024
Qui rit bien rira le dernier !